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Conversation: 802-001

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Start Date: 17-Oct-1972 3:02 PM

End Date: 17-Oct-1972 6:24 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Connally, John B.Mitchell, John N.MacGregor, ClarkEhrlichman, John D.

Recording Device: Oval Office

802-001.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John B. Connally, John N. Mitchell, Clark MacGregor, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:02 pm and 6:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 802-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 801-24/802-1

Date: October 17, 1972
Time: Unknown after 3:03 pm - 6:24 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John B. Connally. This recording began at
an unknown time while the meeting was in progress.

[An unknown portion of this conversation was not recorded while this tape was changed.]

        Issues
            -George S. McGovern
                -Charges against John D. Ehrlichman
                    -Response
                        -Ehrlichman’s performance on television [TV]

John N. Mitchell, Clark MacGregor and Ehrlichman entered at 4:07 pm.

        Greetings
            -Connally’s recent press conference

        Connally’s recent press conference
           George Embry
                -The President’s view
                     -The Left


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        1972 campaign television [TV] broadcasts
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           -Connally's broadcast
               -Significance and impact
                    -The President’s view
                        -Foreign policy and national defense issues
                    -McGovern support
               -George Christian's speech text
               -Production
                    -William Drummond
               -Nguyen Van Thieu
           -Defense
           -Presidency
           -Vietnam
           -Franklin D. Roosevelt
           -Timing
               -World Series
                    -Oakland
                    -Delay
                        -Weather
                        -TV
                        -Cincinnati


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       Issues
           -McGovern
               -Vietnam, amnesty
               -Taxes on wealth
           -Tax reform plan
               -Timing
               -The elderly
               -The President’s radio address on Federal spending, October 7, 1972
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        -McGovern's use of issue
            -McGovern’s forthcoming TV address
        -The President’s schedule
            -Radio
    -The President's schedule
        -Radio
        -New York

[Thomas] Hale Boggs
    -Airplane crash
         -Air travel in Alaska
              -Anchorage
              -The President’s previous experience
         -Search efforts
              -The President’s telephone call to Corrine (Claiborne) (“Lindy”) Boggs
         -Memorial service
    -Status on ballot in forthcoming election
         - [Nicolas J. Begich]
    -Congressional action
    -The President's call to Lindy Boggs
         -Ronald L. Ziegler
    -Lindy Boggs
    -Anecdotes
         -Dinner
              -Peter H. Dominick
                  -McGovern analogy
         -Gridiron Club
              -Parren J. Mitchell

The President's schedule
    -Radio talks
        -Education
             -Equal Educational Opportunities Act
                  -Senate
                  -House of Representatives
                  -McGovern
                      -Absence of vote
             -Parochial school aid issue
             -Busing
             -Blacks
                  -The President's meeting with Gale E. Sayers
                  -Black colleges
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             -James Brown, Sammy Davis, Jr.
                   -Support for the President
                       -Reaction
                           -Records, concerts
             -Jim Brown
    -Text release
        -Use by surrogates
    -Crime
    -The President's voice
        -The President’s meeting with prisoners of war [POWs] families, October
        16, 1972
             -Jo Anne (Horton) Haldeman’s view
        -Roosevelt's fireside chats
        -Radio compared to television
    -Schedule
        -Veterans
             -Veterans Day
        -Paternalism compared to free society address, October 21, 1972
        -Education
        -Address to the nation; “Look to the Future”, November 2, 1972
             -Peace, economy
        -Paternalism address
    -Presentation of administration record
        -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] and Domestic
        Council drafts
        -Unlimited ceiling of opportunity
             -Sayers
             -Jobs, business, education
    -Length
    -Impact
        -Crime and drug abuse address, October 15, 1972
             -Audience
        -The President's delivery
        -Timing and frequency
-Revenue sharing signing ceremony
    -Independence Hall
    -Hale Boggs
        -Service
    -John A. Love
        -Richard B. Ogilvie
             -Illinois
    -Milton J. Shapp
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                   -Frank L. Rizzo
                        -Conversation with Haldeman
               -Rizzo
                   -R. Sargent Shriver
                        -Unknown woman
           -Radio
           -New York regional meeting
               -Nelson A. Rockefeller
               -Rally
                   -Nassau
               -Partisan perception
                   -Advertisements
                        -Republican Party
                        -Democrats for Nixon
                        -Committee to Re-Elect the President [CRP]
                        -Republican National Committee
                        -Georgia
                        -Labor
                        -Atlanta
                        -Instruction for R. Burdell Bixby

       Connally
          -Schedule
               -Idanell (Brill) (“Nellie”) Connally
                   -Receipt of Distinguished Alumni Award from University of Texas
                         -Oveta Culp Hobby, Claudia A. (Taylor) ("Lady Bird") Johnson

       Football
           -University of Texas vs. University of Oklahoma
                -Commentator Charles B. (“Bud”) Wilkinson
                -Washington Redskins
                   -University of Michigan
                        -Fielding H. Yost


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       The President's schedule
           -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT) II announcement, October 19, 1972
           -US-Soviet Union agreement on trade
                -Treasury Department
                -Lend-lease
                    -Henry A. Kissinger, Leonid I. Brezhnev
           -Radio talks
           -Vetoes

       Congressional relations
          -Forthcoming water bill veto
               -Financial cost
                   -Tax increase
                   -1972 election
               -Environmentalists
               -Pork barrel
                   -Gerald R. Ford
               -Ford’s recent telephone call to Ehrlichman
                   -Retroactive provision of bill
                        -1956-1962
                        -Grand Rapids, Michigan
               -Mandatory spending
                   -Effect on credibility of the President’s tax increase position
                        -Environmental issue
          -Congress
               -Veto override
                   -Quorum
                   -Ford


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       Jesse A. Helms
           -Stand on issues compared to the President
                -William L. Scott of Virginia
                -Patriotism
                -Scott
           -North Carolina poll
                -James E. Holshouser, Jr.



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       Vietnam negotiations
           -Kissinger’s schedule
               -Paris to Saigon
                   -Announcement
                   -Return to [Washington, DC]
           -Kissinger’s efforts


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       Congress
          -Possible help from the President's campaigning
               -Support for the President
                   -Charles H. Percy of Illinois
                        -1966
                        -Voting record
                   -William B. Saxbe
               -Loyalty to the President


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       Media relations
          -SALT II announcement, revenue sharing, European security
               -Effectiveness as activities
          -Treaty Room signing
               -Television coverage
          -The President's meeting with POW families, October 16, 1972
               -Television coverage


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       Issues
           -Vietnam
               -Time required for coverage
                    -The President’s meeting with POW families, October 16, 1972
           -Written statements
               -Aid to parochial schools, busing
                    -Grand Rapids
               -Water bill veto
                    -Ford
               -Local tie-in
                    -Press releases
                    -Crime statement
                    -Preparation
                         -Deadline
               -Speechwriters
                    -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                    -Research team
               -Taxes and spending
                    -Veto
                    -Tax Reform Act of 1969
                         -Public awareness


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       The President's accomplishments
           -Vietnam War
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               -Peace efforts
                     -Withdrawal of US forces
           -Trips to the People's Republic of China [PRC] and Soviet Union
           -Crime, narcotics interdiction and law enforcement
           -Economic gains for American people



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       1972 campaign
           -Criticism of the President's schedule
                -White House
                    -“Hiding” charge
                         -TV
                         -Public perception
                              -Poll
                         -Congressional adjournment
                    -Bill signing


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Media

The President's schedule
    -The President’s experience as Vice President
        -1956
        -Dwight D. Eisenhower
    -Vietnam War
        -The President’s May 8, 1972 decision on bombing Hanoi and mining
         Haiphong harbor
              -Impact
    -Visit to fifty states
    -The President's role as President
        -Head of state
        -Contact with people
              -Gen. Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle
                   -Conversation with the President
              -Public perception
                   -Savannah
                         -Blacks
                   -Fargo, North Dakota
                         -Farmers and the President's farm program
                   -Effect of press coverage
              -Mississippi visit, September 8, 1969
                   -Hurricane [Camille]
                   -James Eastland, William M. Colmer
                   -John N. Mitchell
              -Public reaction
                   -Regional pride, national pride
                   -TV
                   -Unemployed
                   -TV
              -Ambassador from Austria [Karl Gruber]
                   -Presentation of credentials
                   -Travels through US
                         -Impressions
                             -West Coast, Texas, Midwest
                                 -Washington, DC
              -Cambodian decision [1970]
                   -Public reaction
                         -Washington, DC compared to rest of country
                             -Media
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                               -De Gaulle
                                    -Paris
                 -Previous trip to Atlanta, Georgia, 1972
                     -South
                         -Comment by unknown girl
                     -Southern strategy
                         -1970 election
                               -James E. (“Jimmy”) Carter
                                    -Liberals

Haldeman, Connally et al. left at 6:24 pm.