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Start Date: 17-Oct-1972 6:30 PM

End Date: 17-Oct-1972 7:17 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Butterfield, Alexander P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

802-009.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:30 pm to 7:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 802-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 802-9

Date: October 17, 1972
Time: 6:30 pm - 7:17 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull and Alexander P. Butterfield.

        The President's schedule
            -Call to Pegge (Jendro) Begich
                -Ronald L. Ziegler

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:34 pm.

        Congressional relations
           -Congressional adjournment
           -Talking points
           -John D. Ehrlichman
           -Schedule

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 6:34 pm.

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 6:40 pm.

        Congressional relations
           -Previous dinner
           -Telephone calls
                -John Sherman Cooper, Leonard B. (“Len”) Jordan, Clinton P. Anderson, Page
                Belcher, John W. Byrnes, Charles R. Jonas, William L. Springer, Frank T.
                Bow, Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr., William M. McCulloch
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         [Thomas] Hale Boggs
             -Memorial service

         Haldeman’s schedule

         Gift
                -Japanese artwork
                    -Chinese jade


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 7m 17s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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Ziegler entered at 6:40 pm.

         Winston S. Churchill
            -Schedule
                 -Ziegler's telephone call
                     -Washington, DC, London
                     -Randolph Churchill, Winston S. Churchill
                     -Washington Post article
                     -Possible meeting with the President
                     -Washington, DC

Ziegler left at 6:41 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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[Duration: 4m 44s ]
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END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:41 pm.

        Request for a meeting with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:48 pm.



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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[Duration: 1m 38s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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Haig entered at 6:48 pm.

        Vietnam negotiations
            -Henry A. Kissinger's schedule
                -The President’s forthcoming location
                    -Executive Office Building [EOB]
                -Kissinger’s trip to Saigon
                -Agreement status
                -Kissinger's trip to Saigon
            -Messages to and from Kissinger
            -Leaks
                -Hanoi
                    -Kissinger's schedule
                         -Inquiry to Ziegler
            -Kissinger
                -Schedule
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                      -Hanoi
                          -Peace settlement
                 -Bombing halt instructions
                 -Schedule
                      -Hanoi
                          -Peace settlement
                          -W. Ramsey Clark
                          -Memorandum from the President
                          -Haig’s conversation with Kissinger
             -Nguyen Van Thieu
                 -Position
                      -1972 election
                 -Saigon's military situation
                      -Possible cease-fire in place
                          -North Vietnamese movements in South Vietnam
                               -Routes One, Thirteen, Seven
                          -Messages from Haig to Kissinger
             -Cease-fire
                 -Desirability
             -Timing of possible settlement
                 -1972 election
                      -George S. McGovern

Haig left at 6:54 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 18s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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         1972 campaign
             -Criticism of the President's schedule
                  -Charles W. Colson
                  -Media
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               -White House
                  -Camp David
               -Camp David
                  -Television and radio
                  -Ziegler's announcements
                       -John D. Ehrlichman, budget
                  -Forthcoming weekend trip
                       -Philadelphia
                       -Ehrlichman
                            -Pending legislation


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 7m 16s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

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       Vietnam settlement
           -Possible delay
               -Kissinger
                    -Schedule


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 10s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10

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       The President’s public appearances
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            -The President’s meeting with prisoners of war [POWs] families, October 16, 1972
                -Ehrlichman’s view
                    -Media coverage
                    -Amnesty and Vietnam issues
                         -The President's October 16, 1972 appearance before POW families
                         -The President’s public appearances


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 9m 17s ]



END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11

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The President and Haldeman left at 7:17 pm.