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Start Date: 18-Oct-1972 11:12 AM

End Date: 18-Oct-1972 11:43 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.

Recording Device: Oval Office

803-006.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:12 am to 11:43 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 803-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 803-6

Date: October 18, 1972
Time: 11:12 am - 11:43 a.m.
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

        The President's speeches
            -Domestic Council papers
            -Education
                -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                -Aid to parochial schools
                -Busing
                -Parochial school aid
                     -John F. Cardinal Dearden of Detroit, Michigan
                          -Peter M. Flanigan
                              -Terence Cardinal Cooke of New York

        Domestic issues
           -Issue papers from Domestic Council
                -Themes
                -The President's presentations
                     -Ohio
                     -Kentucky, West Virginia
                         -Appalachia
                         -Black lung disease
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         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. Nov-03)

              -The President's rural development accomplishments
              -Strip mining
         -Denver, Colorado
              -Quality of life
              -Environmental issues
                   -Congressional record on passage of the President's legislation
                        -Baseball analogy
                        -Water bill
-The President’s veto message
    - [Spending limitation rejection by Congress]
-Education
-Economy
    -Prices
    -Employment
-Health
-Economy
    -Taxes
-Spending
    -Withholding of funds
         -Veto message
-Veto messages
    -The President's possible radio talk
-Denver
-Chicago
    -Presentation of issues
-Preparation of issue statements
    -Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin
         -Structural unemployment
    -The President’s meeting with Beurt and Mrs. SerVaas from the Saturday
    Evening Post
         -Study of the unemployed
              -Identity
              -Causes
              -Blacks
                   -Unemployment compensation, welfare
                   -The President's conversation with Gale E. Sayers
                        -Day care centers in Chicago area
    -Welfare
         -Votes
         -Day care proposals
    -Reworking of previous statements
    -Congress
                                     11
             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Nov-03)

             -Statement of accomplishments and lack of accomplishments
                  -The President’s forthcoming trip
                  -Non-passage of health bill
                  -Non-partisan tone
                      -Goals
    -The President's accomplishments
        -Theodore H. White
        -Welfare, revenue sharing
        -Ehrlichman's conversation with White
    -Welfare reform
        -Congress
    -The President's veto message
        -Spending limitation rejection by Congress
        -Reaction
    -Welfare
        -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] report
             -Russell B. Long's role in legislation action
                  -News summary
                  -House Resolution [HR] 1
        -Themes
             -The President's administration's plans
                  -Progressiveness
                  -Taxes, government
             -Ehrlichman’s briefings
    -Presentation of domestic issues
        -Comparison to 1968
             -Radio talks
        -Policy
        -Economic revitalization of the South
             -The President’s Atlanta speech

         -Regional focus
             -Consumer Price Index [CPI]
                 -Oakland

The press
    -Opposition to the President
        -Ratio
             -Edith Efron's analysis
    -Release of information by the administration

Blacks
                                     12
             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Nov-03)

    -Sayers
        -The President's meeting
            -Robert J. Brown's tactics
    -Support for the President
    -Sammy Davis, Jr.
        -Support for the President
            -Possible meeting with the President or telephone call
                  -Publicity
            -Reaction
                  -Chicago
                  -George S. McGovern's supporters
                  -Carl B. Stokes, Morris Dees

Washington, DC
   -Rev. Walter E. Fauntroy
       -Home rule
       -Campaign
            -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr., Ancher Nelson
            -John L. McMillan

Presentation of domestic issues
    -The President's radio speeches
         -Length
         -Veto messages
    -Portfolio
    -Methods of presentation
         -Leaks
         -Newspapers
    -Domestic issues
         -Publics' concerns
             -Vietnam War
                   -Possible settlement
         -Crime, drugs
    -Tone
         -Congress
         -Water bill
             -Tax issue
             -Rhetoric
             -McGovern's vote on bill
                   -Ehrlichman’s statement
                       -Thomas E. Eagleton
    -Domestic Council's work
                                     13
             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Nov-03)

    -Administration accomplishments and efforts
       -Credit
       -Press attitudes towards the administration's proposals

Congressional relations
   -Attitude toward the administration’s proposals
        -Defensive posture by White House
        -White House staffs' work
             -Thomas C. Korologos
        -Spending limitation
             -Ehrlichman’s schedule
             -House of Representatives
                  -Disorder
                      -Carl B. Albert, [Thomas] Hale Boggs, Gerald R. Ford
   -Water bill
        -Ford
        -Action
             -House compared to the Senate
        -Interest group pressure
        -Media coverage
             -Taxes, inflation
        -Tax on clean water
             -George P. Shultz
                  -Soap
                      -Bryce H. Harlow
                  -Payment for program
                      -Value-added tax [VAT], Excise tax
                           -Manufacturers
                           -Labeling
        -Prospects
   -Spending limits
        -Possible announcement
             -1972 election
             -Taxes
        -Withholding of funds
   -Taxes
        -Vetoes
             -Water bill and spending habits
                  -Presidential latitude
                      -Ehrlichman’s statement
                           -Department of Labor, Department of Health, Education and
                           Welfare [HEW] bill
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                 -Increases caused by Congressional budget action
                      -The President's schedule
                          -Camp David
                              -Briefcases
                                   -The President’s trip to the People’s Republic of China
                                  [PRC]
                                   -Ehrlichman, William E. Timmons
                                   -Bills
                                   -Photographic session
                              -Legislative issues
                              -Domestic Council
                              -Philadelphia
                              -Vetoes
                                   -Story
                              -Ehrlichman's background briefing of wire services
                                   -Bill inventory
                              -Photograph session to show the President's workload
                                   -Briefing books and notebooks
                                        -The President’s trip to the PRC
                                   -Ronald L. Ziegler
                                   -Ehrlichman, Timmons

Ehrlichman left at 11:43 am.