Conversation No. 805-10

Date: October 19, 1972
Time: 11:30 am - 12:03 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Paul Hall, Thomas W. ("Teddy") Gleason, Paul Richardson, Andrew E.
Gibson and Charles W. Colson. The White House photographer and members of the press were
present at the beginning of the meeting

        Introductions and greetings
             -New York
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Oval Office
   -Chair

[Photograph session]

Maritime service
   -Losses during World War II
        -Compared to Great Britain
             -Winston S. Churchill’s memoirs
        -Compared to military losses
        -Carrier protection

National Maritime Committee for the Re-election of the President and endorsement of
the President
     -Maritime industry's appreciation of the administration's action
          -The President’s Seattle speech in 1968 campaign
          -Richardson
          -Gleason
          -Appointment of Gibson
     -National Maritime Council
          -Regional structure
              -Seattle event
                    -Edward C. Nixon
     -Maritime Trades Department of American Federation of Labor-Congress of
     International Organizations [AFL-CIO]
          -Representation
          -Port councils
              -Seamen, longshoremen, allied workers
              -Work with Gibson
          -Support for the President
     -California campaign
          -Offer of assistance
              -Hall’s previous support of Hubert H. Humphrey in 1968
     -George Meany’s assignment of Hall of a chairmanship
          -Hearings
              -Victor Bussie of Louisiana, John Smith of Wisconsin
                    -Colorado
          -Congressional committee
          -Hall's travels
              -Texas
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            -Answering questions
            -California
        -1972 campaign
            -Public reaction
                 -Voter participation
                 -Rank and file, shop stewards, local business agents
                 -George S. McGovern
                      -Connecticut
                          -Workmen’s compensation
                      -South Dakota
                          -Senate seat
        -Hall’s condition on accepting assignment

The President's administration
    -Treatment of maritime industry

Maritime industry
   -Fund raising
   -Democratic platform
        -McGovern
            -Speech, program
                 -Pressure
   -Organization
        -Port councils
            -Gibson
            -Dinners, meetings
                 -1972 election
        -Meany, John J. Rooney [?], Allard K. Lowenstein [?]

1972 campaign
    -The President's endorsement of candidates
        -Democrats' support for the President
            -Criticism
            -Foreign and national defense policy
            -Democrats for Nixon
        -The President's conversation with Ronald L. Ziegler
            -Congressional record on domestic issues
                 -Revenue sharing
                 -Non-partisanship
    -Maritime industry support
        -Everett M. Dirksen, Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford
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              -William S. Mailliard
                   -Roger Boas
                       -Background
    -Hall's activities
        -Fund raising
              -Boas
        -Colson
        -Organization’s efforts
              -Doorbell ringers, literature
              -California press
              -Appreciation for the President's maritime policies

Maritime industry
   -The President’s conversation with Gleason
   -Gibson's role as the President's adviser
   -Colson
        -Gibson
            -Brown University
   -Subsidies
   -US sea power
        -Compared to Soviet Union
        -Size of navy
        -Merchant Marine
        -Role in world
            -Soviet Union
            -Nuclear war
            -Conventional power
                 -Mediterranean Sea, Caribbean Sea
            -US strength
                 -Economy
                 -The President’s Seattle speech
            -Concept of sea power
                 -Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr.
                 -Soviet Union
                      -Bangladesh
            -Settlement of Vietnam War
                 -Honor
                 -Communist takeover of South Vietnam
                 -Shipping
                      -Hanoi, Haiphong
                          -Compared to Berlin, Hamburg, Tokyo
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                     -Soviet Union ships

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:30 am.

        The President’s schedule
            Milton Pitts

Bull left at unknown time before 12:03 pm.

        US foreign policy
            -Meany
                 -Economic policy
                       -Differences with the President
                 -The President's trip to the People's Republic of China [PRC]
                       -The President's Soviet Union policy
            -Soviet Union
                 -Economy, nuclear power
            -PRC
            -Japan
            -US relations with the PRC
                 -PRC
                       -Economy, nuclear power
                       -National interest
                       -Soviet Union
                            -Divisions
                                 -Western Europe
                       -India
                            -Soviet Union
                       -Relations with Japan
                       -Ideological differences
                       -Korean War
                       -Territorial designs
                            -Soviet Union
                       -Relations with Japan
                            - [Masayoshi Ohira]
            -Israel's relations with Arabs
            -Nuclear threat
                 -May 8, 1972
            -Vietnam War
                 -The President's decision to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong harbor
                       -US-Soviet Union summit, May 1972
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                        -Maritime industry's support
                             -Hall, Meany
                             -Compared to intellectuals
                        -US-Soviet Union summit
                             -North Vietnamese military action
                             -The President’s trip to the PRC
              -Intellectuals
                   -Malliard
                        - [Boas]

         Soviet grain deal
             -Losses by some US farmers
             -Wheat, soybeans

         Maritime industry
            -Jobs
            -Future trade with other countries
                 -PRC, Soviet Union
            -Hall's endorsement of the President
                 -Conversation with Meany
                 -Colson

Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:30 am.

         Presentation of gifts by the President
             -Cuff links
             -US –Soviet Union trade agreement
             -Ashtrays
                  -Presidential seal
             -Cuff links
             -Pins

Hall, Gibson, et al., left at 12:03 pm.