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Start Date: 3-Nov-1972 11:05 AM

End Date: 3-Nov-1972 11:15 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Tullio, Louis J.Tullio, GraceWhite House photographerRhatican, William F.

Recording Device: Oval Office

812-010.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Louis J. Tullio, Grace Tullio, White House photographer, and William F. Rhatican met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:05 am to 11:15 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 812-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 812-10

Date: November 3, 1972
Time: 11:05 am - 11:15 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Louis J. Tullio, Grace Tullio, and William F. Rhatican. The White
House photographer was present at the beginning of the conversation.

       Greetings

       Erie

       1972 campaign
            -Erie
                  -Democratic majority
                        -Margin
                              -Louis Tullio’s conversation with Rhatican
                  -Planned Variations [PV] City. 1971
                        -Endorsement of George S. McGovern
                        -Revenue sharing
                  -Louis Tullio
                        -Advisory Board of US Conference of Mayors
                        -Support for the President
                              -Criticism by Democrats


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

                    -Collaboration with the President
                           -First and second term
              -Tullio’s plans
                    -Primaries
                    -Democratic party
                    -John V. Lindsay
                           -Independent
                    -John A. Volpe

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Jan.-08)

                                                              Conversation No. 812-10 (cont’d)

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      Vietnam War
           -Maj. David Gunster, Grace Tullio’s brother
                  -Frank L. Rizzo
                  -Letter to Joan Davis [?] of State Department
                  -Resumption of bombing, blockade
                  -Settlement agreement
                         -The President’s recent speech, “Look to the Future”
                  -Death
                         -Cessation of 1968 bombing
                  -Age
                  -Air Force military service
                         -Pentagon
                         -Gen. Richard M. Montgomery
                  -Family
                  -Photograph
                  -Death
                         -Timing
                               -1968 election
           -Settlement agreement

      [Photograph session]
           -Sun


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

      1972 campaign
           -Louis Tullio’s endorsement
                -Republican candidate
                -George S. McGovern
                -Democratic Party

      Presidential gifts
            -Ash tray

      Vietnam War
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Jan.-08)

                                                              Conversation No. 812-10 (cont’d)

             -Cooperation
             -The President’s letter

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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             -Gunster’s death
                  -Settlement agreement
                         -The President’s statement for Louis Tullio’s use

      Erie
             -PV city
                  -Revenue sharing
             -Penn Central Railroad
                  -John A. Volpe’s visit, November 2, 1972
                  -Norfolk & Western railroad tracks
                        -Removal
                              -Funding
                                    -Pennsylvania
                                    -Federal assistance


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

             -The President’s cooperation
                  -Volpe
                  -Republicans

      1972 campaign
           -Louis Tullio’s support for the President
                -Democrats for Nixon
                -Mayoral race
                       -Success
                -[Erie]

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Jan.-08)

                                                              Conversation No. 812-10 (cont’d)


       Presidential gifts
             -Ash trays
                   -Presidential seal

       1972 campaign
            -Endorsement issue for Louis Tullio
                 -Cities
                       -Problems
                              -The President’s concerns
                                    -Partisanship
                                          -The President’s statement for Louis Tullio’s use
            -The President’s possible victory

       Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

Lousi Tullio, Grace Tullio, and Rhatican left at 11:15 am.