Conversation: 813-020
Prev: 813-019 Next: 813-021Start Date: 8-Nov-1972 10:16 AM
End Date: 8-Nov-1972 10:53 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)]; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Woods, Rose Mary;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Ronald L. Ziegler, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:16 am to 10:53 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 813-020 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 813-20
Date: November 8, 1972
Time: 10:16 - 10:53 a.m.
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Haldeman’s schedule
-Packing
-Family
The President’s schedule
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The President’s schedule
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-Trip to Florida
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The President’s schedule
-Trip to Florida
-Time
-Rose Mary Woods
-Length
-White House staff meeting
-Agenda
-The President’s remarks
-Resignations
-Appreciation
-Second term reorganization
-Haldeman’s role
-Timing
-Timing
-Cabinet meeting
-Duration
-Cabinet meeting
-Haldeman’s presence
-Resignations
-William P. Rogers
-Haldeman's briefing
-Haldeman’s presence
-Rogers’s view
-The President’s presence
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Alexander P. Butterfield
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-White House staff meeting
-Agenda
-The President’s remarks
-Future plans of individuals
-Haldeman’s role
-Interim period
-Changes
-Appreciation
-First term
-Second term reorganization
-Senior staff
-Messages for their staffs
-Resignations
-Haldeman’s role
-Cabinet meeting
-Agenda
-The President’s remarks
-Rogers
-Appreciation
-1972 campaign
-Future plans of individuals
-Second term reorganization
-Future plans of individuals
-The President’s forthcoming meetings
-Timing
-John A. Volpe
-Resignations
-Forms
-Requests
-Second term reorganization
-Retentions
-Rogers C. B. Morton
-Public relations [PR]
-Under secretaryship
-Terms for second term
-Peter G. Peterson
-Volpe
-George W. Romney
-James D. Hodgson
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-Replacement
-Labor representative
-Peterson
-Rogers and Melvin R. Laird
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Justice Department
-Robert T. Mardian
-Executive branch centralization
-Relations with Congress
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1972 election
-Press stories
-Congressional races
-Complaints about the President’s assistance
-The President’s conversation with Harry S. Dent
-Telephone calls
-Validity
-Herbert G. Klein
-Calls about the President’s assistance
-Television spots
-Radio spots
-Telephone calls
-Photographs
-Letters of endorsement
-Financing
-Republican Party
-Problems
-Voter turnout
-Support for the President
-Nancy Dickerson
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-Returns
-Percentages
-California
-Margin of victory
-United Press International [UPI] figures
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-John G. Schmitz
-Comparison with 1964
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Voter turnout
-UPI report
-Precinct reporting
-Alaska
-Voter turnout
-Influence of polls
-Record number of states carried
-Plurality
-Comparison with 1964
-Johnson
-Franklin D. Roosevelt and Alfred M. (“Alf”) Landon
-Figures
-California
Haldeman talked with an unknown man at an unknown time between 10:16 am and 10:31 am.
[Conversations No. 813-20A]
1972 election
-Plurality
-Number of votes
-Latest figures
[End of conversation]
1972 election
-Projections
-New York Times
-The President’s landslide
-Congressional races
-Republican Party results
-Media coverage
-Candidates
-Problems
-Dent
-Delaware
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-Colorado
-Jack R. Miller
-Loss
-Montana
-The President’s support
-Michael J. Mansfield
-[Henry Hibbard]
-Defeat
-Margin
-J. Caleb Boggs
-Margin of defeat
-Delaware
-The President’s race
-Margin
-Support of the President
-Miller
-Gordon L. Allott
-Relations with the President
-Budget
-Margaret Chase Smith
-Support of the President
-Primary
-Louie B. Nunn
-Margin of defeat
-The President’s trips
-Oklahoma
-North Carolina
-New Mexico
-Benefits
-Illinois
-Richard B. Ogilvie
-Loss
-Comparison with the President
-Daniel Walker
-Comparison with George S. McGovern
-Charles H. Percy
-Number of votes
-Comparison with the President
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
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Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 10:31 am.
Ziegler’s forthcoming press conference
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s trip to Saigon, November 8, 1972
-Announcement
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Cabinet meeting
-Agenda
-The President’s remarks
-Appreciation
-1972 campaign
-Press and media coverage
-Second term reorganization
-Duration
-Photograph opportunity
-The President’s schedule
-Tone
-Staff meetings
-Cabinet meeting
-PR
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Ziegler statement
-Resignations
-Ziegler’s possible attendance
-Ehrlichman
-Agenda
-Second term reorganization
-Review and planning
-Series of discussions on plans
-Resignations
-The President’s interview with Garnett D. (“Jack”) Horner
-Ziegler statement
-Timing
-Resignations
-Rogers
-Resignations
-Staff, Presidential, Schedule C, ambassadorial appointees
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-Tradition
-Agency heads, Cabinet officers
-Second term reorganization
-Resignations
-Discussions
-Timing
-The President's schedule
-Florida trip
-Ehrlichman
-Kissinger
-Haldeman
-Review of White House staff
-Review of departments in government
-Horner article
-White House staff
-Watergate
-Review
-Reform of structure
-Horner article
Rose Mary Woods entered at 10:39 am.
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1972 election
-The President’s visit to Shoreham Hotel
-The President’s telephone calls
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Frank L. Rizzo
-John B. Connally
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-Pennsylvania
The President’s schedule
-The President’s departure for Florida
-Time
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-Florida trip
-Time
-Manolo Sanchez’s departure
-Time
-Dogs
Woods left at 10:02 am.
The President’s schedule
-Christmas vacation
-Woods
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Ziegler's forthcoming press conference
-Cabinet meeting
-Resignations
-Custom
-Changes
-The President’s forthcoming meetings
-Announcements
-Decisions
-Haig trip to Saigon
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
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1972 campaign
-Congressional races
-Questions
-The President’s influence
-Ticket splitting
-Post-World War II period
-Republican Party
-Minority status
-Presidential “coattails”
-The President’s support for Republican candidates
-Telephone calls
-Endorsements
-Air Force One
-Publicity
-Ziegler’s Press Releases
1972 election
-1964 election
-Number of votes for Johnson
-Comparison with the President
-Goldwater
-George S. McGovern
-Number of voters
-Margin of victory
-Comparison with the President
-Absentee voters
-Percentages
-Third party vote
-Increase since 1964
-Dr. Benjamin Spock
-Schmitz
-Electoral votes
-Goldwater
-Electoral votes
-Popular vote
-Margin for the President
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-Margin for Johnson
-Recent figures
-California
-Latest figures
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The President’s schedule
-White House staff meeting
-Agenda
-The President’s remarks
-Appreciation
-1972 campaign
-First term
Ziegler left at 10:49 am.
-Second term reorganization
-Changes
-Appreciation
-Interim period
-The President’s forthcoming meetings
-Senior staff
-Messages for their staffs
-Second term reorganization
-Interests
-Changes
-Interests
Second term reorganization
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Herbert G. Klein
-Haldeman’s conversation with Robert H. Finch
-Departure
-James S. Copley
-Ambassadorship
-Flanigan
-White House staff
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Conversation No. 813-20 (cont’d)
-Confirmation
-Confirmation
-Past difficulties
-Walter J. Hickel, G. Harrold Carswell, Clement F. Haynsworth, Jr.
-Flanigan
-Meeting with the President
-Timing
The President’s schedule
-Cabinet meeting
-Agenda
-The President’s remarks
-Appreciation
-The President’s forthcoming meetings
-Timing
-Resignations
-Rogers’s, Haldeman’s roles
-Form
-Recovery of papers
-The President’s remarks
-White House staff meeting
Haldeman and the President left at 10:53 am.