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Start Date: 12-Dec-1972 9:57 AM

End Date: 12-Dec-1972 10:21 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

820-005.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 12, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:57 am to 10:21 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 820-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 820-5

Date: December 12, 1972
Time: 9:57 am - 10:21 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

       Vietnam negotiations
            -Nguyen Van Thieu’s speech to the South Vietnam National Assembly
                 -South Vietnamese conditions
                 -Settlement agreement
                        -US-North Vietnam
                              -Rejection
                        -North Vietnamese troops in South Vietnam
                        -National Council of National Reconciliation and Concord [NCRC]
                              -Coalition government
                        -North Vietnamese aggression against Indochina
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. May-08)

                                                               Conversation No. 820-5 (cont’d)

                           -Counterproposal
                                -Cease-fire
                                      -Timing
                                            -Christmas, New Year’s Day
                                -Release of North Vietnamese prisoners
                                -Local party talks

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 9:58 pm.

       Press relations
             -George P. Shultz’s statement on economic stabilization and federal spending
                    -Budget spending ceiling

Ziegler left at 9:59 am.

       Vietnam negotiations
            -Henry A. Kissinger
                  -Posture
            -North Vietnam’s message
                  -Lack of instructions
            -US options
                  -North Vietnamese instransigence
                        -Recess
                               -Consultations
                               -US military action
            -Ellsworth F. Bunker’s recommendations
                  -Timing
                        -Thieu’s recent speech
                  -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s possible trip
                        -Thieu
            -Thieu
                  -Kissinger’s view
                        -Memorandum
                        -Agnew’s possible trip
                        -Settlement agreement
                               -Risk
                               -Bunker’s view
                                     -Thieu’s speech
                  -Recent speech
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. May-08)

                                                  Conversation No. 820-5 (cont’d)

              -The President’s view
                     -Tran Van Lam’s statement, December 7, 1972
       -Settlement agreement
              -Communists’ position
              -Continuation of war
              -North Vietnamese intransigence
              -Haig’s view
                     -Agnew’s possible trip
              -The President’s role
                     -Possible meeting
-North Vietnam’s lack of instructions
       -Timing
       -Technical talks
-Thieu’s speech
       -Tone
-North Vietnam
       -Possible strategy
              -US-South Vietnam relations
              -Stalemate
                     -Duration
                           -Congressional reconvention
              -Thieu
                     -Cut off of aid
Thieu
       -Relations with US
              -Cooperation
              -1972 election
              -US funds
                     -South Vietnamese military buildup
              -US honor
       -Tenure
       -Instransigence
              -Insistence on total victory
                     -US policy
       -Relations with US
              -North Vietnam
-North Vietnam’s intransigence
       -December 11, 1972 meeting
-Settlement agreement
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. May-08)

                                                 Conversation No. 820-5 (cont’d)

     -Thieu’s speech
            -Instransigence
                   -Possible effect on North Vietnam
                         -US-South Vietnam relations
                               -South Vietnam’s “puppet” status
-US military assistance
     -Pace
     -Kissinger’s view
            -Agnew’s possible trip
                   -Timing
                         -Kissinger’s return from Paris
-Agnew’s possible trip
     -Ronald W. Reagan
     -Thieu
            -Right
-Schedule
     -Christmas
     -Prisoners of War [POWs]
            -The President’s view compared to Kissinger’s view
-US military action
     -Reseeding of mines, US bombing of North Vietnam
            -Effect
                   -Breakdown in talks
            -North Vietnam’s instructions
                   -Intransigence
            -Progress in talks
            -Recess in talks
                   -Kissinger’s return from Paris
-Breakdown
     -North Vietnam’s instructions
            -Intransigence
     -Kissinger
     -North Vietnam’s possible statement
            -Effect
                   -Kissinger
            -Instransigence
            -Kissinger’s return from Paris
                   -Consultations
     -US bombing of North Vietnam
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. May-08)

                                                               Conversation No. 820-5 (cont’d)

                          -Statement
                                 -Tone
                    -Recess
                          -Kissinger’s return from Paris
                                 -Consultation with the President and allies
                          -Contact with North Vietnam
                                 -Channel
                          -US military action
             -Settlement agreement
                    -1972 election
                          -Deadline
                                 -Kissinger’s view
                                       -North Vietnamese concessions
                          -Ultimatum
                                 -Timing
                                 -US bombing of North Vietnam
                          -Kissinger’s “peace is at hand” statement, October 26, 1972
                          -US position
                                 -Tone
             -North Vietnam’s position
                    -US mining and bombing of North Vietnam
                          -Duration
                          -Effect
                          -Cessation
                                 -October 1972
                          -Effect
                    -Failure of Spring 1972 offensive
                    -North Vietnam’s relations with the Soviet Union and the People’s Republic
                     of China [PRC]
                    -US bombing of North Vietnam
                          -Effect
             -Bunker
             -Message from Kissinger
                    -Timing
                          -Breakdown in talks
             -Meeting, December 13, 1972
                    -North Vietnam’s instructions

Haig left at 10:21 am.
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. May-08)