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Start Date: 12-Dec-1972 11:17 AM

End Date: 12-Dec-1972 11:53 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Stone, W. ClementKinsey, Douglas K.Garment, Leonard[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

820-011.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 12, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, W. Clement Stone, Douglas K. Kinsey, Leonard Garment, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:17 am to 11:53 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 820-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 820-11

Date: December 12, 1972
Time: 11:17 am - 11:53 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with W. Clement Stone, Douglas K. Kinsey, and Leonard Garment.

      Greetings
            -1972 election
                 -Congratulations

      Seating arrangements

      The President’s schedule
           -Stone’s first meeting with the President
           -Meeting with Stone, Kinsey and Garment
                 -Agenda
           -[Meeting with J. Willard Marriott]
                 -1973 Inauguration license plate

      National Center for Voluntary Action [NCVA]
           -Reports for the President
           -Stone’s role
           -Business administration
                 -Staff
                        -Washington, DC
           -Support
                 -Financial pledges
           -George W. Romney’s interest
                 -Romney’s meeting with the President
           -Press relations

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:17 am.

      Refreshments
                                           -18-

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. May-08)

                                                              Conversation No. 820-11 (cont’d)

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:45 am.

       NCVA
          -Materials
          -Synopsis
                -Length
          -Centers
                -Number
                -Location
          -Local action
                -Citizens participation
                       -Washington, DC
          -Goals
                -Compared to motherhood
                -Criticism as old-fashioned, nebulous
          -Leaders
                -Stone
                -Robert H. Finch
                -Mrs. Joyce Black
                -Leo Perlis of American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial
                 Organizations [AFL-CIO]
          -Private sector
                -Need for support
                       -ACTION grant
          -Board of Directors
                -Chairmanship
                       -Romney
          -Romney
                -National Urban Coalition [NUC]
                -Lenore (LaFount) Romney
                -NCVA’s tax exempt status
                       -Section 501.3 (c) of Internal Revenue Code
                       -Urban Coalition
          -Prospects
          -Television [TV] advertisements
                -Effectiveness
                       -Football players
                             -Drug abuse campaign, 1971
                                   -Willie Wood
                                -19-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. May-08)

                                                 Conversation No. 820-11 (cont’d)

                             -Black youth
                       -Jim Plunkett
                             -Mexican-American youth
                       -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                       -Stone’s conversation with son [Norman C. Stone]
                       -New York Jets game
                       -Plunkett
                       -Joe Schmidt
-Motivation
      -Reorganization
-Report for the President
      -Synopsis
-Plans for future
      -George Romney’s participation
             -Meeting with George Romney and Edwin N. Etherington
             -NUC
                    -Staff
-Projects
      -Number
             -Rubella program
      -Post-election periods
             -Motivations
                    -Organization compared to goal or man
      -Goals
             -Adolph Hitler and Nazi Party
             -Benito Mussolini and Fascists
             -Reading, food, Christmas baskets
             -Drug abuse
             -1968 campaign
                    -Self-motivation compared to government assistance
             -Initiative
             -Character building
             -Self-interest, altruistic interest
             -George Romney
                    -Idealism
             -Christmas baskets
             -Communication of principles
             -Mental health
             -Prevention
                                                -20-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. May-08)

                                                             Conversation No. 820-11 (cont’d)

                               -Schools
                               -Mental illness
                               -Character building
                               -Studying
                               -Prisoners rehabilitation
                                     -Recidivism
                        -States’ role
                        -Teachers
                        -Teenage drug abusers and alcoholics
                        -George Romney
                               -Idealism
                        -Volunteerism
                               -Individual and community decision making
                                     -Knowledge
                                           -Mental illness
                                           -Studying
                                           -Communications
             -Administration assistance
                 -The President’s role
                 -Timing
                        -George Romney’s involvement
                        -Staff
                 -Board of Directors

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:17 am.

       The President’s schedule
            -License plate presentation
                  -Location
                         -Oval Office

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:45 am.

       Volunteerism
            -Women
                  -Frustrations
                        -Careers, marriages, home making
                        -Alcohol abuse
                  -TV ads
                                     -21-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. May-08)

                                                  Conversation No. 820-11 (cont’d)

                 -Football
          -Lenore Romney
          -Mrs. Nixon
          -Tricia Nixon Cox and Julie Nixon Eisenhower
          -Jobs
          -TV ads
                 -Football players
                 -Local campaign
                      -Timing
     -Disadvantages groups
          -Blacks
          -Mexican-Americans
          -Whites
          -Race issues
                 -Need to deemphasize
                      -Plunkett
                             -Mexican-Americans
                      -NUC
                             -M. Carl Holman
                      -Balance
     -Motivation

NCVA
   -Programs
         -The President’s view
   -Clement Stone’s energy and resources
   -Competition with ACTION
         -National Student Volunteer program
   -ACTION
         -The President’s view and instructions
               -“Boondoggle”
               -Budget

Garment’s schedule
    -Meeting with Stone and Kinsey

White House gifts

Garment’s schedule
                                              -22-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. May-08)

                                                               Conversation No. 820-11 (cont’d)

             -Meeting with Stone and Kinsey

Kinsey and Garment left at 11:45 am.

       Ambassadorship to Great Britain
           -Maurice H. Stans
                  -Conversation with Clement Stone in 1968
                         -Request for good government
           -Press relations
                  -British and US speculation
           -Walter H. Annenberg
                  -Plans
           -Honor
           -Philanthropy
                  -Great Britain
                         -Phillip’s [Prince of England] invitation to Court of St. James
                                -Fundraising
                         -Anna Freud Centre
                         -Computers
                                -The Burden Neurological Institute, University of Bristol,
                                 England
                         -Brain specialists
                                -Mental health
                         -Boys’ Clubs
                         -International Council of Educators for Teaching Convention
           -Press relations
           -British, US strength
           -Parliament
                  -Conservative and Labor Party inquiries of Clement Stone
           -Britain
                  -Labor influence
           -Press relations
           -Annenberg’s tenure
                  -1973
                         -European Security Conference, July
                                -US-Soviet Union summit
                         -Common market
           -1968 and 1972 campaigns
                  -The President’s conversation with Stans
                                            -23-

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. May-08)

                                                          Conversation No. 820-11 (cont’d)

             -Press relations
                   -Government positions
                          -Timing
                   -Volunteer activities
                          -Nonpolitical nature
                               -1974 campaigns
                          -NCVA
                   -Government positions
                          -Timing
                               -Annenberg

       1972 campaign
            -Stone’s son-in-law, David E. Bradshaw
                  -Work with Charles W. Colson
            -The President’s meeting with Stone at Camp David
                  -Possible meeting
            -The President’s winning percentage

       Christmas greetings

Stone left at 11:53 am.