Conversation: 831-006
Prev: 831-005 Next: 831-007Start Date: 3-Jan-1973 11:30 AM
End Date: 3-Jan-1973 1:00 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Bull, Stephen B.; Ehrlichman, John D.;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On January 3, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:30 am and 1:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 831-006 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 831-6
Date: January 3, 1973
Time: Unknown time between 11:30 am and 1:00 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman at an unknown time after 11:00 am.
Second term reorganization
-Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-Office of the Science Advisor
-Outside job opportunity
-Meeting with the President
-The President's schedule
-1973 Inauguration
-David M. Abshire
-David
-AEC
-Special recognition
-James D. Hodgson
Departure
John D. Ehrlichman
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
Haldeman talked with Ehrlichman at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 1:00 pm.
[Conversation No. 831-6A]
Hodgson
-Plans
[End of telephone conversation]
Second term reorganization
-Hodgson
-New position
-Robert H. Finch
-Governor
-Law firm
-Charles W. Colson
-Size
-Miscalculations
-Reception for Californians
-Blair House
-Leonard K. Firestone
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Murray M. Chotiner
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-Congressional races
-Chotiner’s assistance
-Contributions
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-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Herbert G. Klein
-Walter H. Annenberg
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct.-08)
Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-James S. Copley
-Gannett news service
-Retention
-Counselor
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Advocacy
-Compared to Colson
-Local editors
-Problems
-Publishers
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Departure
-Gen. Brent B. Scowcroft
-The President’s confidence
-Haig’s departure
-Kissinger
-Scowcroft
-Abilities
-Office management
-White House staff cuts
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-John K. Andrews, Jr.
-Reassignments to agencies
-Price
-Use of White House
-Ziegler
-Kissinger's staff
-Haig
-Responsibilities
-Chad
-Upper Volta
-Colson
-Klein
-Ziegler
-Kissinger
-Price
-Visits by departing staffers
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct.-08)
Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
The President’s schedule
-Cabinet
-The President's meeting with new Secretaries
-Confirmations
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
Roberto Clemente memorial fund
-Pittsburgh Pirates
-Daniel M. Galbreath
-Willie Stargell
-Dave Giusti
-The President's schedule
-Meeting
-Timing
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:00 am.
The President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 1:00 pm.
Clemente memorial fund
-White House staff awareness
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-George Allen
-Harry S. Truman
-Baseball
Second term reorganization
-Price
-David R. Gergen
-Lawyer
-William L. Safire
Anne L. Armstrong
-Office space
-Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
-George A. Lincoln
-Replacement
-Contribution on foreign policy
-NSC
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-Kissinger
-Space Council
-Books on presidency
-Clinton Rossiter
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Institutionalization
-Truman
-Eisenhower
-Consolidation
-NSC
-Cabinet
-Vice Presidency
-Clearing the President’s schedule
-Roy L. Ash
-Camp David
-Ehrlichman’s briefing
-Congressional relations
-Cabinet
-George P. Shultz
-Economics
-Details
-Cut in White House staff
-Office space
-Counselors
-Staff
-Deputy for Haldeman
-Ehrlichman
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Lawrence M. Higby
-Past chiefs of staff
-Sherman Adams
-Jerry Persons
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Qualifications
-Political sophistication
-Age
-Young men
-Butterfield
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct.-08)
Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-Ziegler
-Dwight L. Chapin
-Stephen B. Bull
-Bruce A. Kehrli
-Responsibilities
-Scheduling
-Baseball
-Big decisions
-Truman memorial service
-Assistants to the President
-Staff meetings
-Timing
-Shultz, Ehrlichman, Ash, Kissinger, William E. Timmons, Ziegler
-Purpose
-The President’s memorandum
-Meeting with Shultz
-Ehrlichman, Kissinger
-Ash, Shultz
-Agency responsibilities
-Treasury Department
-Office of Budget and Management [OMB]
-Responsibilities
-Shultz
-Counselor
-Differing role
-Testimony before Congress
-Ehrlichman, Kissinger
-OMB
-Secretary of Treasury
-Counselors
-Deputy for Haldeman
-Higby
-Responsibilities
-Chapin
-Butterfield
-Bull
-Responsibilities
-Qualifications
-Alter ego
-Bull
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-Frederic V. Malek
-Potential
-Prospects
-Subcabinet appointments
-Dave N. Parker
-Qualities
-Presence
-Scowcroft
-Higby
-Butterfield
-Timmons
-Appearance
-Bull
-Thomas Hart
-Thomas C. Korologos
-Timmons
-Appearance
-Ziegler
-Compared to Gerald L. Warren
-Kenneth W. Clawson
-William J. Baroody, Jr.
-Colson's departure
-Replacement
-Congressional relations
-Timmons
-Clark MacGregor
-George H.W. Bush
-Ehrlichman
-Shultz
-Ash
-Qualities
-Washington Post
-Retention
-Announcement
-Allegation
Watergate
-Colson
-Watergate involvement
-Haldeman's knowledge of involvement
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct.-08)
Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-E. Howard Hunt, Jr. and G. Gordon Liddy
-Perjury
-Colson
-John N. Mitchell
-Knowledge
-Jeb Stuart Magruder and Liddy
-John W. Dean, III
-Magruder
-Mitchell and Colson
-Early involvement
-Purpose of break-in
-Financial information
-Convention
-Haldeman's knowledge of Watergate
-Hunt
-Knowledge
-Liddy
-Possible testimony
-Magruder
-Possible testimony
-Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
-Suspicions
-Job
-Dean
-Involvement in Watergate
-Magruder
-Bicentennial Commission
-Trial
-Date
-Pleas of defendants
-Congress
-Plans to investigate
-Edward M. Kennedy staff
-Donald H. Segretti
-Henry M. Jackson
-Sam J. Ervin, Jr.
-President's strategy
-Colson
-Dwight L. Chapin
-Colson
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-Value to administration
-Travel
-Break-in
-Motives of defendants
-Mitchell's role in Watergate
-Colson
-Magruder
-Liddy
-Role in Watergate break-in
-Edward M. Kennedy bugging
-Protection/surveillance of Kennedy
-Report
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-Assignment of Secret Service agent
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-Future report
Second term reorganization
-New Cabinet
-New assignments
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-William E. Simon
-Peter J. Brennan
-Claude S. Brinegar
-Anne L. Armstrong
-New responsibilities
-Republican National Committee [RNC]
-Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr. [?]
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Employment in White House
-Salary
-Press relations
-Ziegler
-Spokesperson
Rose Bowl Parade
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Television [TV] coverage
-Applause of audience
-Propriety of appearance
-George Allen
Second term reorganization
-Rose Mary Woods
-Mood
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Marjorie P. Acker
-Armstrong
-Health
-Gen. Walter R. Tkach
-Cabinet dinner
-Mood
-Invitations
-Colson
-Maurice H. Stans
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Armstrong
-Appointment
-Cabinet
-Californians
-Patricia R. Hitt
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-RNC
-Texas
-Californians
-Claude S. Brinegar
-Caspar W. (“Cap”)Weinberger
-Ash
-Rose Mary Woods
-Relations with other staff members
-Butterfield
-Bull
-Camp David
-People's Republic of China [PRC] trip
-Nellie L. Yates
-Value to the President
-Stans
-Wiley T. Buchanan, Jr.
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Bull
-Relationship with Woods
-Butterfield
-New responsibilities
-Thomas Hart
-Ziegler
-Responsibilities
-1972 campaign
-Quotas
-Social office
-Old friends, family
-Stans
-Brother
-Health
-Haig
-Woods's staff
-Acker
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo's advice
-Handling
-Grievances
-Rebozo’s advice
The White House renovation
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-[First name unknown] Jones
Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:00 am.
The President's schedule
-Telephone calls
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
-Hugh Scott
Bull left at an unknown time before 1:00 p.m.
White House renovation
-Shelving
-Lighting
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Chair for the President
-Mrs. Nixon
-Desks
-Dwight D. Eisenhower desk
-Residence
-Mrs. Nixon
-Third floor
-Johnson’s bar
-Kitchen
-Dining room
-Rex W. Scouten
-Bureaucrat
-Loyalty
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-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct.-08)
Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-Changes in White House
-Bowling alley
-Sauna
-Whirlpool
-Scouten
-Improvements
-Expense
White House automobiles
-Woods
-Driver
-Access
-Staff access
-Ash
-OMB
-Armstrong
-Department limousines
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Congressional seat
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
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Woods
-Mood
-The President’s call to Edmond S. Muskie
-Invitations
-Involvement
-Old friends
-1973 Inauguration
Press relations
-Kissinger
-James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct.-08)
Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-Newspaper column
-John A. Scali
-[First name unknown] Wells [?]
-Max Frankel
-New York Times
-Ziegler
-Telephone calls
-Loyalty
-Letters from Harvard associates
-Vietnam negotiations
-Kissinger's morale
-Mood
-Washington Post
-Congress
-Ash
-Investigation
-New York Times
-Reston
-Colson
-American Enterprise Institute [AEI]
-News summaries
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Size
-Orientation
-Human Events
-New Republic
-Martin Z. Agronsky
-Wire services
-Television networks
-Washington and New York
-Washington Post
-New York Times
-Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
-Agronsky
-Kissinger
-Ehrlichman, Shultz, Ash
-Value
-Wall Street Journal
-Christian Science Monitor
-News magazines
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct.-08)
Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-Attitudes
-Value
-Time
-Newsweek
-U. S. News and World Report
-The President's habits
-Congressman, Senator and Vice President
-Condensation
-Projection of positive image
-1972 election victory
-Staff morale
-Vietnam War
-Bombing of North Vietnam
-Ziegler
-Settlement
-Kissinger
-Meetings with the President
-Concurrence with the President's policies
-Attitude toward bombing
-Compared to the President's attitude
-Paris negotiations
-Reston article
-Haldeman's response
-Agreement on bombing
-The President’s appearance on TV
-Cables
-Paris negotiations
-Advocacy of bombing
-Reston
-Motives for article
-The President's conversation with Ziegler
-Bombing of North Vietnam
-Impact on country
-Reston
-TV
-Congress
-1972 election victory
-Impact on supporters
-John B. Connally, William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Resumption of negotiations
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 831-6 (cont’d)
-L. A. Times
-Editorials
-Criticism
-[First name unknown] Murphy
-Tony Day
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:00 am.
The President's schedule
-Telephone call
-Mansfield, Hugh Scott
Bull left at an unknown time before 1:00 pm.
The President left at 1:00 pm.