Conversation No. 834-22

Date: January 5, 1973
Time: 4:55 pm - 5:29 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

       Ehrlichman's meetings

       White House staff
            -Press
                  -John F. Osborne
            -Moves to departments
                  -Cabinet officers

       Reorganization
            -Success

       Congressional breakfast
            -Vietnam remarks
            -Ehrlichman's evaluation
            -Henry A. Kissinger
            -Negotiations

       Kissinger
             -Role in negotiations

       Attacks of Congress regarding Vietnam
            -Reporter's question for wire services
                   -Dean Grisher
            -Public support
                                      -35-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Feb.-09)

                                                      Conversation No. 834-22 (cont’d)

          -Campaign issue
     -Popular mandate in election
          -Joan Baez, William Coffin, Edward W. Brooke

Vietnam
     -Kissinger
     -Negotiations
     -The President's approach

The President's briefing regarding Vietnam
     -Presentation techniques
           -Explanation of policy
     -Ronald L. Ziegler
     -Kissinger
     -Negotiations
           -North Vietnamese
           -Cambodia, Laos
           -Kissinger's approach
     -Bombing civilian areas
           -North Vietnamese attacks on civilians
                  -Col. Richard T. Kennedy
           -Double standard
           -Civilian areas of South Vietnam
                  -Visit by Ehrlichman and George P. Shultz

Congress
     -Attacks on President
     -Budget cuts
            -Barber B. Conable, Jr.
            -Necessity
     -Inflationary tendencies

Reorganization
     -Farm programs
           -Earl L. Butz
     -Opposition
           -Limestone Institute
           -Corporate landowners
     -Disaster relief
           -Loopholes, abuses
                                             -36-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Feb.-09)

                                                         Conversation No. 834-22 (cont’d)

            -Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
                  -Caspar W. Weinberger

       Congress
            -Wilbur D. Mills
                 -Shultz
                 -Advice for President

       Posters by Washington Redskins
             -Drug program
                   -George H. Allen
                   -Lawrence (“Larry”) Brown, Jr.
                   -Billy Kilmer
                   -Christian A. (“Sonny”) Jurgensen
            -Schools
            -Boys Clubs
             -Action shots
             -Bureau of Narcotics
             -Question of citation for Redskins
                   -Richard G. Kleindienst

       Rose Bowl football game
            -University of Southern California [USC]
            -Ohio State
            -Players of USC
                  -Linemen

Henry Kissinger entered at 5:15 pm.

       Meeting with Hugh Scott and Gerald R. Ford

       Canadians
            -Resolutions regarding bombing
            -Vietnam
            -Pierre E. Trudeau
            -US ambassador
            -Trade relations
                  -Shultz
                  -Michelin tires
                                       -37-

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Feb.-09)

                                                  Conversation No. 834-22 (cont’d)

British

French
     -Maurice Schumann

Redskins posters
     -Kissinger's apartment

W. Kenneth Riland
     -Trip to England
     -Travel with Kissinger

Attitude toward The President
      -Canadians
            -Reasons for resolutions
      -Trudeau

Destruction in South Vietnam
     -List by Col. Kennedy
     -Double standard
     -Canadian Parliament
            -Foreign Minister
                  -Mitchell Sharpe
            -Trudeau

Negotiations on Vietnam
     -Technical meeting
           -Subjects
     -Canadian resolution

Congressional resolution
     -Effect on negotiations
           -Nguyen Van Thieu

Kissinger's meeting with Vietnamese envoys
      -Tran Van Dong, Bui Diem
      -Le Duc Tho's intentions

Press
        -Criticism
                                             -38-

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Feb.-09)

                                                               Conversation No. 834-22 (cont’d)


       Congressional resolution
            -North Vietnamese responses

       Canadian resolution on bombing
            -Response
            -Trudeau
            -Canadian-American relations

       Kissinger's meetings with Congressmen
             -William E. Timmons
             -International Control Commission

Kissinger left at 5:25 pm.

       Resolutions
            -Effects
                   -Kissinger
                   -Compared to Ehrlichman
                         -Canadians, Italians, Scandinavians
            -North Vietnamese response
                   -Le Duc Tho

       Shultz
             -Canadians

       Christmas bombing in Vietnam
             -Impact
             -Costs of settlement
                   -Destruction of North Vietnam
                   -“Honorable end” to the war

Ehrlichman left at 5:29 pm.