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Start Date: 11-Jan-1973 10:20 AM

End Date: 11-Jan-1973 11:03 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")White House operator[Unknown person(s)]Agnew, Spiro T. (Vice President)

Recording Device: Oval Office

838-018a.mp3

838-018b.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, unknown person(s), and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:20 am to 11:03 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 838-018 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 838-18

Date: January 11, 1973
Time: Between 10:20 and 11:03 am
Location: Oval Office
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                             Conversation No. 838-18 (cont’d)


The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman at 10:20 am.

       White House

       Weather

       Winston S. Churchill
             -World War I
                    -Book
                    -Spring 1914
                    -Germany
                    -Great Britain
                    -Weather

       White House staff
             - Haldeman
             -John D. Ehrlichman
             -Charles W. Colson
             -George P. Shultz
             -Colson
                     -Philosophy
                     -Hardhats
             -Politics

       President's memo on appointments to Administration positions
              -Haldeman's role
              -Frederic V. Malek's role
              -William P. Rogers
              -Ehrlichman
              -Shultz
              -George H. W. Bush
              -Peter M. Flanigan
              -Haldeman
              -Malek
              -Lewis A. Engman
                      -Federal Trade Commission [FTC]
                      -Qulaifications
              -Engman
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                   Tape Subject Log
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                                                      Conversation No. 838-18 (cont’d)

       -Shultz
       -Henry A. Kissinger
       -Ehrlichman
       -Malek
       -Colson
       -Engman
       -Ehrlichman
               -Domestic Council
                      -Edwin L. Harper
                      -Engman
               -John N. Mitchell
               -Engman
                      -Miles W. Kilpatrick
                             -Departure
                      -Age

Appointments
      -Ehrlichman's role
              -Engman
      -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
              -United States Information Agency [USIA]
              -James Keogh
      -Call from Hobart Lewis
      -Frank Stanton
      -Harley Ranch [?]

Stanton
       -USIA
       -Red Cross

Red Cross appointments
      -Maurice H. Stans
      -Major contributors
             -W. Clement Stone
                    -Qualifications

Stanton
       -President's instructions
       -Colson's role
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Feb.-09)

                                                          Conversation No. 838-18 (cont’d)

                     -Haldeman
                     -Ehrlichman
              -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
              -Washington Post
              -Red Cross
              -USIA
              -Ranch [?]
              -Colson
              -USIA compared to Red Cross
                     -Colson’s call to Stanton

       President's schedule
              -Spiro T. Agnew
                      -Haldeman
                      -Foreign policy
                      -Kissinger
                      -Vietnam negotiations
                      -Appointment with the President
                      -Washington Post

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 10:20 and 11:03
am.

[Conversation No. 838-18A]

[See Conversation No. 35-131]

[End of telephone conversation]

       President's schedule
              -Agnew

Haldeman talked with an unknown person in Agnew's office at an unknown time between 10:20
and 11:05 am.

[Conversation No. 838-18A cont’d]

[See Conversation No. 35-131]

[End of telephone conversation]
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Feb.-09)

                                                             Conversation No. 838-18 (cont’d)


Haldeman talked with Agnew at an unknown time between 10:20 and 11:03 am.

[Conversation No. 838-18A cont.]

[See Conversation No. 35-131]

[End of telephone conversation]

       President's schedule
              -Agnew
                      -Middle East
                      -Vietnam negotiations in Paris
                             -Kissinger
              -Vietnam
                      -Bombing story
                             -Murrey Marder
                             -Washington Star
                             -Paris
                                    -Rumors
                      -Kissinger

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:20 am.

       Agnew appointment
            -Time

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:03 am.

       Herbert G. Klein
              -Ronald L. Ziegler

       Frank L. Dale

       Press relations
               -Washington Star
               -Colson’s views on Washington Post
               -Richard Scaife
               -Colson
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
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                                                          Conversation No. 838-18 (cont’d)


      President's schedule
             -Florida trip
                     -Colson
                            -Role

      Staffing
              -Klein
                       -Departure
                       - Ziegler's role
                       -Timing
                       -President's support
                       -California
                       -Copley
                       -Public appearances

      Bugging of the President's airplane in 1968
            -John N. Mitchell
            -Cartha D. DeLoach
                    -Evidence
            -J. Edgar Hoover
            -Mitchell
            -John W. Dean, III’s plan
                    -Lyndon B. Johnson
                    -Joseph A. Califano, Jr.
            -Washington Star story
            -Johnson
                    -John B. Connally
                    -Mitchell
                    -George E. Christian
            -Califano
            -Hubert H. Humphrey
            -Washington Star story
                    -DeLoach
                            -Meeting with Mitchell
            -Press


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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Feb.-09)

                                                          Conversation No. 838-18 (cont’d)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Privacy]
[Duration: 7s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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      Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
              -Colson
              -George D. Webster
                     -Confirmation
              -Colson

      Film
             -Dick Martin-Dan Rowan Production
                    -Attendance


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift.]

      [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
            -Hugh Scott
            -Harry S. Dent
                   -George A. Goodling
            -Martin Hamburger
            -William E. Brock, III
            -Bush
            -Dent
                   -Regional responsibilities

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift.]
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      Stanton
             -Appointment
             -Charles Colson
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
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                                                          Conversation No. 838-18 (cont’d)

               -Red Cross
       -Elliot L. Richardson
       -Donald M. Kendall
       -Red Cross
       -USIA
               -Lewis

Democrat Caucus meeting
     - Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield

Presidential nominations
       -Vietnam War

Watergate
      -Bugging in the President’s place in 1968
            -Christian
                    -DeLoach
                    -Califano
                    -Humphrey

Agency appointments
      -Haldeman
      -Ehrlichman

Press relations
        -Staff responsibility for news summaries
                -Colson
                -Haldeman
                -Ziegler
                -Ehrlichman
        -Strategy regarding anti-administration actions
        -William E. Timmons
        -Colson
                -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
                -Labor unions
                -Letter writing campaigns
        -Bombing
                -Objections
                -Congress
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Feb.-09)

                                                           Conversation No. 838-18 (cont’d)

                             -Mail count
                     -TV

       Administration policy
             -Cambodia
             -Richardson
             -Leadership concerns
             -Colson
                     -Compared to Bruce A. Kehrli
             -Roy L. Ash
                     -Qualifications

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:20 am.

       President's schedule
              -Council on Environmental Quality [CEQ]
              -Press photograph

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:03 am.

       Environment issue in campaign
              -Colorado
              -Ehrlichman
              -Water bill
                     -Question of President's veto
                     -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
              -William D. Ruckelshaus
              -Mrs. Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox, Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                     -Park dedications

       Agnew

Haldeman left at 11:03 am.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Feb.-09)