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Start Date: 31-Jan-1973 4:52 PM

End Date: 31-Jan-1973 6:13 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Connally, John B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

845-012a.mp3

845-012b.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 31, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:52 pm and 6:13 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 845-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 845-12

Date: January 31, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:52 and 6:13 pm.
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President's schedule
            -Arrangements for dinner
                  -Eisaku Sato
                         -Toast
                         -Reception

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:13 pm.

John B. Connally entered at an unknown time after 4:52 pm.

       Charles Bluhdorn
            -Gulf and Western
                  -Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company
                        -Acquisition
                        -Hartford Foundation
                              -Huntington Hartford
                        -Possible injunction by the Justice Department
                              -[First name not known] Crawford
                                     -Father,
                                           -Dean of Law School, University of Michigan
                                     -Richard Easton
                                           -Father
                                                 Dean of Law School,
                                                 University of Texas
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              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                        Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

International trade
      -Congressional relations
            -Carl Albert
                   -Domestic considerations
                         -Lyndon B. Johnson years
      -Foreign affairs
            -The President’s accomplishments
      -Possible priority for the President
      -Financial situation
            -Stability of the dollar
                   -European markets

Japan
        -Trade surplus

Canada
     -Trade surplus

Issues
      -John F. Kennedy
      -Trade, energy

Energy
     -US companies
           -Japan
           -Great Britain
                 -Eric William
                       -British Petroleum
                       -Conversation with Connally
                              -Capability, technology
                              -Crude oil
                                    -International considerations
                                    -Government involvement
     -Domestic economic considerations
     -Europe
           -Moral decay
     -Japan
     -Domestic economic considerations
           -Moral problem of US
                 -New Left
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                      Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

                  -Intellectual leadership
                  -Great Britain
                  -France
                  -Europe
                         -Character
                         -Will to resist
                  -Soviet Union
                  -Peoples’ Republic of China [PRC]
                  -Soviet Union
                         -Armament
                         -Character

Trade
        -Kennedy round of General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs [GATT]
        -Possible protectionist considerations
              -Japan
                    -Export of radios
                    -Import restrictions
              -Canada
         -Edward R.G. Heath
        -Monetary concerns
              -Deficits
              -Dollar
        -The President’s possible initiatives
              -Congress

Energy
     -Heating
     -Oil companies
           -Scapegoats
     -Federal Power Commission
     -Dwight D. Eisenhower’s policy
     -George P. Shultz
           -Secretary of Labor
           -Task force on oil imports
                 -Independent oil companies
                 -Canada
           -Opposition to protectionism
                 -Wage and price controls
     -Richard M. Helms
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                        Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

               -James M. Schlesinger
               -Ambassador to Iran
                    -Regional responsibilities
                          -Other ambassadors
                                -Oil
                                -Principalities
                                -Saudi Arabia
                          -Expertise


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[Duration: 7s       ]

      [MIDDLE EAST POLICY]

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                    -Regional responsibilities
                         -Iran to Algeria
                         -Travel
                         -Meeting with Connally
                         -Other ambassadors
                         -Experience
                                -National Security Council [NSC]
                                -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
                         -Oil companies


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[National security]
[Duration: 11s ]

      [IRAN]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                          Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

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           -Connally’s role
                -Intermediary with oil companies
                -Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, Henry A. Kissinger
                -President's schedule
                      -San Clemente meeting
                             -Shultz, Ehrlichman
                             -Kissinger
                             -Patrick J. Buchanan

            -Israel

           -Ehrlichman
                 -Domestic Council
           -Shultz
           -Kissinger

                 -Schedule
                      -Vietnam settlement
                            -Soviet Union, PRC
                            -North Vietnam
                            -South Vietnam

           -The President's schedule
                -California

      Soviet Union
           -Col. Richard T. Kennedy
           -Trade agreement
                 -Connally’s schedule
                       -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                 -Foreign policy implications
                       -Kissinger
                       -PRC
                       -US needs
                       -Kissinger
                             -PRC, Japan
                       -Dobrynin
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                      Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

                      -Kissinger’s schedule

      Helms
          -Meeting with Connally
          -Loyalty
          -Responsibilities as ambassador


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[National security]
[Duration: 21s ]

      [MIDDLE EAST POLICY]

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           -Toughness, honor, experience
           -State Department
           -Compared to businessmen
                 -Saudi Arabia
                 -Oil
           -Experience
                 -CIA
                      -Analysis


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[National security]
[Duration: 15s ]

      [HELMS]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                     Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

     -Strength
     -Kissinger
     -President’s letter
     -CIA
           -Departure
     -Staff rotation
     -Responsibilities as ambassador
           -Meeting with Connally
           -Breadth
           -Oil companies

Connally
     -Esso
           -General Counsel
     -Standard Oil of New Jersey
           -John ("Ken") Jameson
                 -Peter M. Flanigan
           -Schedule
     -Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson
           -Meeting with the President
           -Energy
           -The President’s meeting with Congressional leaders
           -Work with oil companies
           -Senate
     -Vincent de Roulet
           -Ambassador to Jamaica
           -Patriotism
           -Richard S. Reynolds, Jr.
           -Possible future appointments
                 -Europe
                 -Great Britain
                        -Walter H. Annenberg
                 -France
                        -John N. Irwin, II
                 -Germany
                 -Italy
                        -John A. Volpe
           -State Department
           -Possible confirmation
                 -J. William Fulbright
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                            Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

                        -DeRoulet
      Connally’s meeting with [Faisal, King of Saudi Arabia] Malik Faisal ibn Abd al-Aziz al-
       Saud
            -Letter
                  -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
            -Israel
                  -[Fahd, King of Saudi Arabia] Fahn bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud
                  -Communism
                  -Zionism
            -Visit with Fahd
                  -Friendship with US
                  -Arab leaders
                        -Israel

      Press relations
            -TV morning show
                   -Charles W. Colson, Haldeman, Kissinger
                   -Vietnam settlement
                         -Claudia A. (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
                         -White House Press Office
                               -Conversation between President and Lyndon Johnson
                                     -Health
                                     -Vietnam negotiations
                                            -Bombing
                         -Kissinger
                               -Schedule
                         -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                               -Nguyen Van Thieu
                                     -Kissinger
                                     -Aid cut off
                         -The President's instructions to Haldeman
                               -Lyndon Johnson
                               -Bombing in Vietnam
                         -Kissinger
                               -Lyndon Johnson’s knowledge


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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                            Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

           -Politics
                  -William D. Ruckelshaus
                  -John B. Connally
                        -1976 Republican Nomination
                        -Jules Witcover
                        -Peter Lisagor
                        -The President’s support
                  -1974 Congressional elections
                        -Vietnam settlement
                        -Voter registration
                        -Spiro T. Agnew
                        -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                        -Connally’s party status
                        -Agnew
                              -Possibility of Nomination
                                    -Electability
                        -Rockefeller
                              -Possibility of nomination
                              -Age
                        -Ronald W. Reagan
                        -Melvin R. Laird
                        -Charles H. Percy

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      Vietnam
           -The President's conversation with Eisaku Sato
                -Opposition to President
                      -Compared to Lyndon Johnson
                      -Press relations
                      -Intellectuals
                      -Demonstrations
                -Kakuei Tanaka
                -US reliability as an ally
                      -South Vietnam
                      -Japan
                      -Great Britain
                      -France
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                           Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

                      -Lyndon Johnson, John F. Kennedy
                      -Possibility of earlier settlement
                            -South Vietnam
                                   -Communist government
                            -Prisoners of War [POWs]
                            -Communist victory
                      -Tanaka
                      -Gough Whitlam
                            -Australian Prime Minister
                      -Heath
                      -Europe
                      -Japan
                      -Soviet Union, PRC
                      -Leadership of free world

     Politics
            -1976 Presidential election
                 -Possibility of a liberal democrat
                       -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                       -Walter F. Mondale
                       -Economic implications
                       -National security
                              -PRC, Soviet Union
                                     -Europe
                                     -US alliance


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          -Connally’s future
               -The President’s conversations with Haldeman, Colson
                     -Kissinger
                     -Rockefeller
          -Connally’s conversations with associates
               -George Christian
               -Larry Temple
               -Connally’s political affiliation
                     -Democrat Party
                     -Republican Party
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                             Conversation No. 845-12 (cont’d)

                   -Connally’s conversation with Richard G. Kleindienst
                         -Colson
                   -Possible announcement of party change
                         -“Today Show”
                   -Possibility of Connally’s changing parties
                         -Timing
                         -Lyndon Johnson’s death
                                -Texas

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       Lyndon Johnson's death
            -The President's speech on Vietnam settlement
            -The President's presence at funeral services
                 -Claudia A. (“Lady Bird”) Johnson


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       Politics
              -Colson
              -Connally’s future

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Connally left at 6:13 pm.