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Start Date: 2-Feb-1973 9:39 AM

End Date: 2-Feb-1973 10:33 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Colson, Charles W.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

847-005.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles W. Colson, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:39 am to 10:33 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 847-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 847-5

Date: February 2, 1973
Time: 9:39 am - 10:33 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       President's schedule
              -Edward R. G. Heath

       Press relations
               -Media reaction to cease-fire
               -News summary
               -Editorials and columns
                       -Baltimore Sun, Los Angeles Times
                       -White House preparation
                       -The President’s press conference
                       -Report
                               -Donald W. Riegle, Jr. [?]
               -Albert E. Sindlinger
                       -Attach the media
                       -Public opinion
                               -Commentators
                                      -Public resent interpretation
               -Letters to editors
                                -4-

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Sep.-09)
                                                 Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



        -Celebrate peace
-Vermont Royster
-Barry M. Goldwater
        -Mailing
-Charles Crutchfield
        -White House press conference
        -Accuracy in media
                -Credibility
-Edith Efron
        -Book
                -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Henry A. Kissinger
        -Analysis
        -Vietnam
        -Bombing
                -Kissinger’s role
                        -Kissinger’s claims of recommendations to the President
                               -Peoples Republic of China [PRC]
                               -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT]
        -“Peace with Honor”
                -Importance
                        -US position in the world
-John A. Scali
-Kissinger’s handling of questions
        -Future interviews
-Kalb
-Today Show
        -Press skills
                -Richard Nixon
                -Herbert Klein
-Elizabeth R. Drew
-Press skills
        -Herbert Klein
        -Colson
        -Patrick J. (“Pat”) Buchanan
        -Howard K. Smith
                             -5-

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                      Tape Subject Log
                        (rev. Sep.-09)
                                             Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



                -Discussions of the President
                       -Vietnam settlement
                       -The President’s courage
        -Kissinger
        -Haldeman
        -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-News summary
-Far right publication
        -William Loeb
                -Manchester Union Leader
        -Smith Hempstone, Jr.
                -Korea
-Holmes Alexander
-William P. Rogers
        -Paul Miller
        -Nobel Peace Prize
-New York Times editorial
        -Royster
-Harry Reasoner
        -American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
        -Column
        -Kissinger
                -Kissinger as “hawk”
                -The President as “dove”
                -Rogers
                       -Nobel Peace Prize
                               -Willy Brandt
-Kissinger
        -New York Times
        -Reasoner
-Nobel Peace Prize
        -The President
        -Kissinger
-Nobel Peace Prize
        -The President, Kissinger
                -The President’s acceptance
                               -6-

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                       Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. Sep.-09)
                                                Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



                -Sweden
        -Rogers, Miller
                -The President’s nomination
        -Kissinger
                -Support for the prize
                -Jews
                -New York Times
-Kissinger
        -Hanoi
        -Substantive questions
        -Television [TV]
                -Vietnam
                        -The President’s handling
                                -Personal character
                        -Kalb interview
                                -Process
                                -Implications
                                -Audience
                                -Dull
                                -Kissinger’s performance
-Reasoner
        -John A. Scali
                -Confirmation
        -John B. Connally, Peter J. Brennan, Klein, Buchanan
        -Capital Hill
        -Henry Cabot Lodge
        -Jews, liberals
                -Kissinger
                -Rogers
                        -State Department
                        -Vietnam settlement
                                -The President
-Perspective
        -News summary
-Sindlinger
        -Popular opinion of the President
                                -7-

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Sep.-09)
                                                 Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



               -Inflation
               -John C. Stennis
                       -Crime
                       -Blacks
               -Vietnam settlement
                       -Kissinger
               -Prayer breakfast
                       -Vietnam
                       -CBS
                              -Dan Rather
               -Criticism of media
                       -Sustain
                              -Reactions
                                      -Public
                                      -Network news
                                              -The President’s press conference
                       -Kalb interview
                              -December bombing
-Summaries of the President’s press conferences
       -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
       -Buchanan
-Administration’s attitude toward press
       -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
       -Ronald L. Zieglar
       -Clay T. (“Tom”) Whitehead
       -Royster’s columns
               -Compared to the President’s statements
                       -“Peace with honor”
                              -“New Majority”
-President’s press conference
       -Rather
               -Depiction of the President at press conference
       -Sindlinger
               -Depiction of the President at press conference
       -Robert Boyd
               -“New Majority”
                                       -8-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Sep.-09)
                                                        Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



                     -Class war
              -Rather
                     -Ziegler
                     -Colson

Amnesty
      -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
      -Hubert H. Humphrey
             -Support for the President
      -William E. Timmons
             -Republican “Doves”
                     -Amendment to legislation
                            -Vote
                            -Peace Corps
                            -House of Representatives
                            -Senate
                            -Mark O. Hatfield

Public relations
        -Vietnam settlement
        -Critics of the Administration
        -The President’s letters
                -Congressmen
                -Senators
                -Officials connected with Vietnam
                        -Haig’s list
                               -Draft of letter
                               -Henry Cabot Lodge
                               -[First name unknown] Walsh
                               -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
                               -W[illiam] Averell Harriman
        -Vietnam negotiations
                -Kissinger
                -Bombing
                        -Duration
                               -Dispute
                                     -9-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Sep.-09)
                                                     Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



             -Edward R. G. Heath
             -Not talk about bombing
                     -Achieve objectives with Vietnamese
                     -Kissinger’s press conference
                     -Chicago Tribune
                     -Buffalo News

Press conferences
       -Frequency
       -Wisdom of keeping quiet
       -Attack mode
       -Press

Amnesty
      -Timmons
      -Republican
            -Support for the President
      -House of Representatives
            -“Doves”

Congressional relations
      -Legislation
              -Washington Post
              -Vetoes
                      -The President’s possible appearance on TV
      -Deficit
-Watergate
      -Washington Post story
              -Dwight L. Chapin, Herbert W. Kalmbach, Donald H. Segretti
              -Edward M. Kennedy’s subcommittee
                      -Budget
      -Press coverage
              -Washington Post, Washington Star, New York Times
                      -Repackage old stories
      -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
              -Hearings announcement
                                      -10-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Sep.-09)
                                                        Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



              -Books
              -1972 election result

Congress
      -Control issues
             -Poor
                      -Malnutrition
             -Taxes
      -Public’s concern
             -Stennis’s shooting
             -Busing
             -Amnesty
      -Amnesty
             -West Point captain
             -Canada
                      -End of draft
                      -Arrest
             -Morality
             -Compassion
                      -Individual basis
             -Liberals
             -Conscientious objectors
                      -Veteran’s benefits
                              -Legal
      -National attitudes
             -Congress
                      -Education, model cities, health care, Medicare
                      -Sindlinger
             -Capital punishment
                      -Stennis’s view
             - President’s view
                      -Coincide with public
                      -Influence the public
             -Compared to 1960s
             -School lunches
                      -Horror stories
                                        -11-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. Sep.-09)
                                                           Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



                     -John W. Warner
                              -Daughter
                     -Press question
              -Day Care
              -Poor and elderly
                     -John D. Ehrlichman
              -Congress’s constituency
                     -Special interests
              -President’s constituency
                     -Public interest
                     -Franklin D. Roosevelt
              -Special interests versus public interests
                     -Prices
                     -Taxes
              -Presidential speech
                     -Domestic Council
                     -Mail
                     -Ehrlichman
                     -Price
                     -Speech writing

Peace Corps
       -Henry Fairlie’s book
               -British Liberal
       -Humphrey
       -George P. Shultz
       -Junket
               -Against the US
       -“New Majority”
               -Drugs
               -Homosexuality

Political message
        -Controversy
        -Excitement
        -Price
                                                -12-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Sep.-09)
                                                               Conversation No. 847-5 (cont’d)



                     -Consensus
                     -Compassion
              -Controversy
                     -The President’s press conference
                             -Buchanan
                             -Create excitement
              -Kissinger’s interview
                     -Ziegler’s assessment
                             -Objectivity
                             -Dullness
              -President’s previous press conference
                     -Reportage
                     -Rather
                             -The public’s perception of the President
                     -TV coverage
                     -Controversy

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:39 am.

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:33 am.

       The public’s perception of the President
             -Pubic expectations
                     -Petulance
                     -Toughness
             -Jules J. Whitcover

Haldeman and Colson left at 10:33 am.