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Start Date: 5-Feb-1973 9:43 AM

End Date: 5-Feb-1973 9:59 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Timmons, William E.Korologos, Thomas C.

Recording Device: Oval Office

848-007.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, William E. Timmons, and Thomas C. Korologos met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:43 am to 9:59 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 848-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 848-7

Date: February 5, 1973
Time: 9:43 am - 9:59 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with William E. Timmons and Thomas C. Korologos.

      Richard K. Cook
             -Attendance at meeting
                    -Congress

      Meeting with Republican Congressional leaders
            -Utility
                     -Roy L. Ash
                     -Program abuse examples
                            -Lincoln Day speeches, mail, newsletters
            -Kits
                     -Vietnam
                            -Charles W. Colson
                            -Subjects
                                   -Amnesty
                                   -Peace

      Amnesty
            -Live issue
                    -Vote in Senate, House of Representatives
            -Amendment
            -Senate
                    -Robert A. Taft, Jr.
                           -Proposal
                                  -Peace Corps
                                         -Safety
                                         -Reward
                                         -Value
            -Abraham Lincoln’s amnesty
                                        -11-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Oct.-09)
                                                             Conversation No. 848-7 (cont’d)



                -Misconception
                -Deserters compared to Southerners
                -The President’s generosity to individuals
         -The President’s press conference
                -Consequences for mistakes
         -Senate
                -Opposition
         -House of Representatives
                -Bills
                -Carl B. Albert
                -Compared to busing

Budget
         -Congressional relations
         -Support from Republicans
         -Democrats
                 -Pocket vetoes
                 -Repass bills
                 -Veto
         -Issues
                 -Taxes, prices
                        -Compared to education, cities
                 -Mandatory languages
                        -Tax increase
                                -Amendments

Vietnam War
      -Issue
      -Republicans
      -Budget

The President’s schedule
       -Meeting with Republican Congressional leaders
              -Length
                     -Briefing
                             -Hugh Scott
                                     -12-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Oct.-09)
                                                      Conversation No. 848-7 (cont’d)



                            -Gerald R. Ford
              -Agenda
              -Vietnam

Congress members
      -Burden of work
             -Mail, meetings
             -The President’s experience as Congressmen
                      -Lincoln Day speeches
                      -Republican National Committee [RNC]
                      -Lincoln Day kits
                             -Quality
      -Quality
             -Intelligence
             -Creativeness
                      -Elford A. Cederberg
      -Appropriations committee
             -Cederberg
             -Wilbur D. Mills
             -Herman T. Schneebli

Appointee confirmations
      -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
              -Confirmation chances
                      -Impoundment list
                      -Commitments
                             -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
                             -Scott
              -Liberal
      -Peter J. Brennan
      -Earl L. Butz
      -Elliot L. Richardson
      -Deputy Secretary of Defense
               -William P. Clements, Jr.
                      -Approval
                      -Swearing-in
                                       -13-

                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Oct.-09)
                                                          Conversation No. 848-7 (cont’d)



                       -Qualities
        -Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislative Affairs
               -John O. (“Jack”) Marsh, Jr.
                       -Former Congressman

Republican Congress members
      -Morale
      -Defensiveness
              -Vietnam War
                     -Scott
              -Barry M. Goldwater
      -Press coverage
              -Opposition
                     -Controversy
      -Aggressiveness
      -Attack on Edmund S. Muskie
              -Talk show appearance
                     -William Proxmire
                     -Issues
      -War as an issue
              -Vietnam War
              -Constitutional rights

The President’s schedule
       -Meeting with Republican Congressional leaders
              -Scott
                     -Policy luncheon
              -Timmons’s role
                     -Agenda
                            -Korologos’s role
                            -Cook
                            -Stephen B. Bull
              -Future meetings
                     -Lincoln Day

Loyalist list
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct.-09)
                                                               Conversation No. 848-7 (cont’d)



               -Democrats
                      -Supporters in House of Representatives, Senate
                      -Letters from the President
                              -Newspapers
                      -Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo
               -Reception at White House
                      -Republicans, Democrats
                      -Speech by the President
                      -Support on upcoming vetoes
                      -Timing
                              -Kissinger’s trip to Vietnam and People’s Republic of China
[PRC]
                             -Return of Prisoners of War [POWs]
                      -Breadth of list
                             -December bombing
                             -William B. Saxbe
                                      -Ohio
                             -Partial supporters
                                      -Inclusion

Timmons and Korologos left at 9:59 am.