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Start Date: 8-Feb-1973 1:21 PM

End Date: 8-Feb-1973 2:33 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Campbell, John L.Ehrlichman, John D.Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.White House photographerCampbell, JaneDiBona, Charles J.Shultz, George P.Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.)

Recording Device: Oval Office

853-014.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, John L. Campbell, John D. Ehrlichman, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., White House photographer, Jane Campbell, Charles J. DiBona, George P. Shultz, and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:21 pm to 2:33 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 853-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 853-14

Date: February 8, 1973
Time: Unknown between 1:21 pm and 2:33 pm
Location: Oval Office

Stephen B. Bull met with John L. Campbell, Jane Campbell John D. Ehrlichman, and Kenneth R.
Cole, Jr.; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

       California
              -House
              -Campbell’s office
                     -Committee
              -Food
              -New job
                     -Start date
                     -Los Angeles

The President entered at 2:15 pm.
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Feb.-10)
                                                            Conversation No. 853-14 (cont’d)



       Taxes

       [Photograph session]

       Campbell's work with the administration

       Campbell's new job and residence in California

       Presidential gifts
              -Pin
              -Ash tray

       Campbell’s appreciation

       Robert H. Finch
              -Compared to President’s term in office

The Campbells and Cole left 2:21 p.m.

       President’s schedule
              -Meeting
                      -Charles J. DiBona
                      -George P. Shultz
                      -Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
                      -Henry A. Kissinger

       Rogers C. B. Morton
              -John C. Whitaker

       President’s schedule
              -Meeting with DiBona

DiBona, Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, and Scowcroft entered at 2:23 pm; the White House
photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

       Greetings
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Feb.-10)
                                                       Conversation No. 853-14 (cont’d)


DiBona’s job as special consultant on energy
      -Pay
      -Importance
      -Foreign policy and political problems

Energy
         -Oil
                -Socialists [?]
                -Threat of cutoff from Middle East
                        -US options
                -Middle East
                        -Iran
                        -Saudi Arabia
                        -Gulf States
         -Russell B. Long
                -Domestic production
                        -Louisiana
                -Conversations with DiBona
         -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                -Knowledge
         -Cabinet
                -Sensitivity to issue
                -Interior Department
                -State Department
                -Defense Department
                -Treasury Department

DiBona’s job
      -Naval Academy
      -Political sensitivities
              -Previous Selective Service position
                      -Favors
      -Outside advice
              -John B. Connally
                      -Reliability
                      -Balance between private and public interests
              -Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
              -Dr. H. Guyford Stever
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Feb.-10)
                                                       Conversation No. 853-14 (cont’d)


                       -National Science Foundation [NSF]
         -Connally
                -Option paper
         -Meeting with outsiders
                -Ideas
                -Individual meetings

Energy
         -Connally
                 -US oil markets
                        -Tankers
                 -US as consumer
                        -US tanker fleet
         -Long
                 -Meeting with President and Shultz
         -DiBona’s plan
                 -Tankers
         -Oil problems
                 -Administration responses
                        -Interrelated problems
                 -Foreign policy aspects
                        -Connally
                        -National Security Council [NSC] concerns
                                -Soviet Union
                                -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                                -Japan
                        -Japan
                                -Middle East concerns
                                        -Companies

Environmentalists
       -Problems
       -Opposition to nuclear power
       -Shale oil mining
               -Wyoming
       -Russell E. Train
               -Involvement
       -Oil refinery location
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Feb.-10)
                                                           Conversation No. 853-14 (cont’d)


               -Alaska pipeline
                      -Environmental opposition
                      -Litigation
                      -Jackson
                              -Help for administration
                              -Credentials

       DiBona
             -Jobs
                       -Selective Service
                               -Curtis W. Tarr
                       -New job
                               -Special interests

       New job

DiBona, et al., left at 2:33 pm.