Conversation: 854-035
Prev: 854-034 Next: 854-036Start Date: 13-Feb-1973 1:11 PM
End Date: 13-Feb-1973 1:41 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rumsfeld, Donald H.; Sanchez, Manolo; Rumsfeld, Nicholas;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On February 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Manolo Sanchez, and Nicholas Rumsfeld met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:11 pm to 1:41 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 854-035 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 854-35
Date: February 13, 1973
Time: 1:11 pm - 1:41 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Donald H. Rumsfeld; this recording began at an unknown time while the
conversation was in progress.
North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Rumsfeld’s assignment
-Joseph M. Luns
-European national interests
-Prime ministers
-Public opinion
-Great Britain
-Edward R. G. Heath
-December 1972 bombing
-Support
-European allies
-Criticism of US Vietnam policy
-Problems
-US response to criticism
-Threat to NATO
-US interests
-Continued criticism
-US commitment of troops, money
-Effect on US
-Speeches
-Mutual reduction of forces
-European Security Conference
-Great Britain
-Soviet Union
-Weaken NATO
-Self-sufficiency
-US commitment to alliance
-US isolationism
-Vietnam
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-10)
Conversation No. 854-35 (cont’d)
-Dangers
-President’s opposition
-December 1972 bombing
-Spending on ghettos
-Defense budget
-Gen. Andrew J. Goodpaster
-Staff
-Opposition
-European politicians
-Prime ministers
-Public opinion
-Georges J. R. Pompidou
-Willy Brandt
-Italy
-Prime minister
-Other countries
-Criticism of US
-President’s trips to Soviet Union and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Bombing
-Vietnam settlement
-Trade
-Shultz’s policy
-Aid
-Dealings with European allies
-Viability of Europe and US without alliance
-Balance of power
-Fortress America
-Dangers
-Europe, Japan, Far East
-Necessity of US alliance
-President’s support of internationalism
-Aid for Greece, Turkey
-Marshall Plan
-Herter committee
-Eisenhower administration
-Mansfield Amendment
-Campaigns
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-10)
Conversation No. 854-35 (cont’d)
-Vietnam
-Soviet Union, PRC
-Respect
Internationalism
-Visit to Europe
-Romania
-President’s reelection
-President’s visibility in Europe
-Turnout in Romania
-France
-William P. Rogers
-Communist demonstrations
-Romania
-Rumsfeld’s visit
-Reaction of public
-Television [TV]
-Compared to President’s TV appearance in Soviet Union
-Europe
-France
-Germany
-Radical elements in Europe
-Compared to US radicals
Rumsfeld’s respect for President
-President’s qualities
-President’s appreciation
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
Rumsfeld’s political future
-Senate candidacy
-Fundraising
-Philip M. Crane
-William J. Scott
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-10)
Conversation No. 854-35 (cont’d)
-State office
-John B. Anderson
-Edward J. Derwinski
-President’s support for Rumsfeld
-Anderson
-Abilities
-House of Representatives leadership
-Speaker of the House
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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House of Representatives
-Able members
-Loyalty
-Leadership
-Fear of concentration of power
-Weakness
-Compared to Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield in Senate
-Democrats
-Power
-Leadership
-Fear of power
-Carl B. Albert
-Drinking
Nicholas Rumsfeld entered at 1:29 pm.
Handshake with President
President's chair
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 1:29 pm.
White House photographer
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-10)
Conversation No. 854-35 (cont’d)
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:30 pm.
The White House photographer entered at an unknown time before 1:30 pm.
[Photograph session]
Nicholas Rumsfeld
-Joyce (Pierson) Rumsfeld
Donald and Nicholas Rumsfeld and the White House photographer left at 1:41 pm.