Conversation: 861-014
Prev: 861-013 Next: 861-015Start Date: 22-Feb-1973 11:47 AM
End Date: 22-Feb-1973 12:21 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rhyne, Charles S.; Bull, Stephen B.; Ehrlichman, John D.; White House photographer; Clapp, Norton; Claerhout, John; Freeman, George; Marchetti, Charles; Scott, Randolph; Beck, Gregory L.; Foster, Sylvia Elizabeth; Guastella, Peter; Johnson, Alan R.; Johnson, Willis J.; Martino, Frank Nilson, Jr.; Mason, John; Roach, Stanley; Scholten, John; Stone, Rich; Tobin, Harry; Todd, Timothy David; England, William Lee; Ried, Paul R.; Perez, Amilcar Matos; Toler, Richard Louis;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On February 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles S. Rhyne, Stephen B. Bull, John D. Ehrlichman, White House photographer, Norton Clapp, John Claerhout, George Freeman, Charles Marchetti, Randolph Scott, Gregory L. Beck, Sylvia Elizabeth Foster, Peter Guastella, Alan R. Johnson, Willis J. Johnson, Frank Nilson Martino, Jr., John Mason, Stanley Roach, John Scholten, Rich Stone, Harry Tobin, Timothy David Todd, William Lee England, Paul R. Ried, Amilcar Matos Perez, and Richard Louis Toler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:47 am to 12:21 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 861-014 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 861-14
Date: February 22, 1973
Time: 11:47 am - 12:21 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Charles S. Rhyne; the White House photographer was present at the
beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
Photographs
Wallace Wade
-Coaching at Duke University
-Record
-Professional coaching
-Invitation to the White House
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National Institute of Justice Commission
-Warren E. Burger
-Membership
-Origins
-American Bar Association [ABA]
-Compared with National Science Foundation [NSF]
-Controversial topics in justice
-Legal education, police, prosecutors
-President’s administration
-Conflict with Chief Justice Burger
-Law Enforcement Assistance Act [LEAA]
-Conflict
-Criminal justice system
-Problems
-Labor, ABA, industry support
-Recommendations
-Organization
-1972 campaign
-Newspapers
Lawyers
-Conservatism
-Judges
Rhyne's proposal
-Need for reform of justice system
-Malcolm Wilkey
-President's interest in commission
-Report
-Meeting with the President
-Cabinet
Publicity
-Jaris Winter [?]
-Chief Justice Burger
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Prison system
-Investigation
State courts
-Investigation
-Federal courts
Federal agency
-Need for funds
-Purpose of money
Horace Jeremiah (“Jerry”) Voorhis
International affairs
-Support for the President
-US strength
-International law
-Agreements
-Federal law
-Permanency
-World Law Court
-State Department
-Support
-Problem of money
-Arm Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA] budget
-The President's role
-Commission on international law
-Amount of money
International law
-Codification
-Rhyne’s talk with Haile Selassie
-Address to League of Nations
-Ethiopia
-Treaties
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-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-President’s role
-United Nations [UN]
-Capabilities
-General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade [GATT]
-US
-Leadership role
-Treaties
-Nigeria
-Selassie
-Compilation of laws and treaties
-Adherence
-World parliament
International compared to domestic justice
-Commission
President’s statements in support of justice
-Phrases
Rhyne's speech to Rotary Club
-Support for President
PRC
-Communique
-Liaison offices
-Washington, Peking
-Taiwan
-Significance
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Reaction
-President’s policies
-Dangers, opportunities
Laos
-Cease-fire agreement
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-Critics of the President’s policies
-Communist victory
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:47 am.
President’s schedule
-Meeting
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:07 pm.
Laos agreement
-Souvanna Phouma
-North Vietnamese withdrawal
International peace and security
-India and Pakistan
-North and South Vietnam
-North and South Korea
-Communist and free world
-Differences in free world
International law
-Growth
-Common law
-Constitution
-World government
-Constitution framing
-League of Nations
-United Nations [UN]
-Common law
-US leadership role
-Need for justice
-Communists
-Justice system
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USSR
-Rhyne’s visit to Moscow
-Supreme Court
-Smeil [?] [First name unknown]
-Alexander K. Gorkin
-Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
-Meeting when President was Vice President
-Smirnoff [First name unknown]
-Aspirations
International law
-President's role in development
Rhyne's work
-Elections 1960, 1968, 1972
John D. Ehrlichman entered at 12:07 pm.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Conversation with Rhyne
Follow up meetings
-Ehrlichman and John W. Dean, III
-Joseph T. Sneed
-Commission
Rhyne left at 12:07 pm.
Meeting with Boy Scouts
-Norton Clapp, Chairman of Weyerhaeuser Company
-Contribution
-President of Boy Scouts
Norton Clapp, John Claerhout, George Freeman, Carl Marchetti, Randolph Scott, Gregory L.
Beck, Sylvia Elizabeth Foster, Peter Guastella, Alan R. Johnson, Willis J. Johnson, Frank Nilson
Martino, Jr., John Mason, Stanley Roach, John Scholten, Richard Stone, Harry Tobin, Timothy
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David Todd, William Lee England, Paul R. Ried, Amilcar Matos Perez, and Richard Louis Toler
entered at 12:13 pm.; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of this
meeting.
Photo session
-Lineup for photo
-President’s entrance
-Arrangements
-Presentation
Introduction
-President
-Ehrlichman [?]
[General conversation]
Members of the press entered at an unknown time after 12:07 pm.
Introduction
-Boy Scouts
Presentation of honorary award to the President
-Leaders
-Volunteers
Annual report to the President
-1972 Highlights
-Project Store [?]
-Conservation
-Project Reach
-Drug abuse prevention
-Explorers Congress
-Manual
Presentation of plaque, book and flag to President
-Regions
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-Book on flag
Physical fitness
-Colorado State University
-Plaque [?]
Boy Scout projects
-Significance
-Press coverage
-Drug abuse prevention
-Environment
-Volunteers
-Meetings with the President
-Military service
-Hope for peace
[Applause]
Tour of the White House
Presentation of gifts
-Tie bars
-Cuff links
[General conversation]
Ehrlichman, Clapp, et al., left at 12:21 pm.