Conversation: 861-019
Prev: 861-018 Next: 861-020Start Date: 22-Feb-1973 12:46 PM
End Date: 22-Feb-1973 1:08 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Timmons, William E.; Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.; White House operator; Rogers, William P.;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On February 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, William E. Timmons, Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, and William P. Rogers met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:46 pm to 1:08 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 861-019 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 861-19
Date: February 22, 1973
Time: 12:46 pm - 1:08 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with William E. Timmons.
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Congressional relations
-Evening at the White House
-Invitations
-Gerald R. Ford
-Carl B. Albert
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
-Hugh Scott
-Sammy Davis, Jr.
-Irving Berlin
-Invitations
-Mansfield
-Reluctance
-State Dinners
-Thomas P. (“Tip”) O’Neill
-President’s reluctance
-Ford
-Frequent meetings
-Veterans
-Church service
-Cancellations or regrets
-Supporters
-Future invitations
-Opponents
-William B. Saxbe
-Remarks
-Samuel L. Devine
-Apology
-Church service
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 12:49 pm.
-Evening at the White House
-Evening at the White House
-Invitations
-Republicans
-House and Senate
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-Compared with State Dinners
Timmons left at 12:50 pm.
Ronald L. Ziegler’s view on press briefing
Metropolitan Club
-Kissinger’s meeting with Joseph W. Alsop
-Column
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]’s press coverage
Kissinger’s press briefing
-Press coverage
-People’s Republic of China [PRC] liaison office
-Importance
-List of Prisoners of War [POWs]
-John T. Downey’s release
-Questions
-Taiwan
-Aid to North Vietnam
-Reconstruction
-Meaning
-Real issue
-North Vietnam’s foreign relations
-US
-Neutral countries
-PRC, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Peter Lisagor
-Questions
-Laos
-Murrey Marder
-Question
-Discussion in Peking
-Laos, Cambodia
-Cease-fire
-Withdrawal of foreign troops
-Support of Savang Vatthana
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-Royalty
-Political settlement
-Souvanna Phouma
-US commitments
-Cease-fire, withdrawal of foreign troops
Press relations
-Hostility to President
-John W. Arbuckle
-Reasons for hostility
-Envy
-Cease-fire announcement
-Press response
Laos
-Cease-fire
-Settlement
-Souvanna Phouma
-Negotiations
-Incentives to abide by settlement
-North Vietnam’s role
-Aid
-Cable
-Congress
-Incentive
William P. Rogers
The President's schedule
-Camp David meeting
-Meeting at the White House, Old Executive Office Building [OEB]
-George P. Shultz
-President’s departure for Camp David
-Kissinger on television [TV]
-Scheduling
Rogers
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-Meeting with Kissinger and President
-Breakfast meeting
-Timing of appearance
-Hafiz Ismail
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:50 pm.
Rogers
-Breakfast meeting
-Kissinger’s attendance
-Arrangements
-Paris trip
Bull left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm.
-Rogers's trip
-William H. Sullivan’s, William J. Porter’s attendance on trip
-Middle East
Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:50 pm.
Rogers's meeting with Kissinger and President
-Porter
-Sullivan
-Kissinger’s telephone call
Bull [?] left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm.
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and
1:08 pm.
[Conversation No. 861-19A]
[See Conversation No. 43-164]
[End of telephone conversation]
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Breakfast meeting
-Timing
Press relations
-Kissinger’s press briefing
-PRC
-Vietnam cease-fire and settlement
-Aid to North Vietnam
-Budget battle
-Consequences of rejection
-Alsop
-Support for President
-President’s Congressional dinner
-Right-wing, isolationist
-Voting record
Republicans
-Past isolationism
-Compared with liberal internationalists’ arguments
-Vietnam War
Aid to North Vietnam
-Opposition
-Domestic spending
-Schools
-Ghettos
-Polls
-Compared with 1947
-Congress
-Support
Kissinger talked with William P. Rogers at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 1:08 pm.
[Conversation No. 861-19B]
[See Conversation No. 43-165]
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[End of telephone conversation]
Rogers
-Role
Kissinger’s schedule
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Alsop
-Brezhnev
-Scheduling
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Meeting with Kissinger
-Camp David
-Cable
President’s schedule
-Brezhnev’s visit
-France
-Trip to Europe
Press relations
-Alsop
-Foreign aid
-The President's support while in Congress
-Opposition
-Liberal Democrats
-Vietnam War
-Responsibility
-Humanitarian
-Alsop
-Japan and Germany
-North Vietnam
-Liberal intellectuals’ support
-Aid to Japan and Germany compared with North Vietnam
Congressional relations
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
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-Breakfast meeting with leaders
-President’s statement about aid to Vietnam
-Opposition
William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Telephone call with President
-Son
-Age
-Support for President
-School
-Support for President
-Bombing
-Compared with Harvard University
Bombing
-Support
-Letters to Kissinger
-Fear of losing
Withdrawal from Vietnam
-Consequences
-POWs
-Sense of failure
Alsop
Kissinger met with an unknown person at an unknown time before 1:08 pm.
Identification of person
Kissinger left at 1:08 pm.
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