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Start Date: 28-Feb-1973 9:12 AM

End Date: 28-Feb-1973 10:23 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Dean, John W., IIIBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

865-014a.mp3

865-014b.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Dean, III, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:12 am to 10:23 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 865-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 865-14

Date: February 28, 1973
Time: 9:12 am-10:23 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John W. Dean, III.

[Transcripts of this conversation may be found in RG 460, Box 172, pp. 1-48; 8RPC, pp. 19-46;
SRPC, pp. 76-110 (1-35); SI, Bk. III, pt.1, pp. 617-87 (1-71), Bk. VII, pt. 4, pp. 1751-54 (43-46),
pp. 1780-1782 (59-61).]

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:12 am during the transcribed portion.

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:23 am during the transcribed portion.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National security]
[Duration: 58s]

INTELLIGENCE

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       National security

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       Judicial positions
               -Court of Appeals
                                            -8-

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                           Conversation No. 865-14 (cont’d)


                    -Judges
                            -David L. Bazelon
                            -George E. MacKinnon, Roger Robb, Malcon R. Wilkey,
                            -Confirmation
                                   -Congress
                                   -Lyndon B. Johnson
             -Supreme Court
                    -Appointments
                    -Justices
                            -Harry A. Blackmun, Lewis F. Powell, Warren E. Burger
                                   -Legacy
                                   -President’s appointment
                            -William O. Douglas
                                   -Health
                            -William J. Brennan
                            -Thurgood Marshall
                                   -Health
                                   -Clerks
             -Possible nominees
                    -William H. Brown
                    -Jewel S. Lafontant
                            -Black woman
             -Douglas, Brennan, Marshall, Byron R. (“Whizzer”) White, Potter Stewart,
Blackmun, Burger, Powell, William H. Rehnquist
                    -President’s opinion
             -Appointments
                    -Lafontant
                            -Marshall
                            -Senate confirmation
             -Kleindienst
                    -Analysis of possible candidates and courts
                            -Southern Democrats
                            -Age
                            -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                            -President’s birthday statement
                                   -Rehnquist
                                   -Gordon L. Allott
                                   -Ethnics
                                               -9-

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                               Conversation No. 865-14 (cont’d)


                                             -Italians, Poles, Blacks, Jews
                                             -Jews in government
                                                     -Arthur F. Burns, Henry A. Kissinger,
William F. Safire
                                                    -President’s opinion
                                             -Reaction to appointments
                                                    -Ehrlichman
                                                    -Stereotypes
                                                            -Campaigning
                                                    -Ivy League candidates
                                                    -Cabinet
                                                    -Republicans, Democrats
                                                            -Elitism
               -Appointments
                     -Lafontant compared to Marshall
                             -Confirmation
                             -Background
                                    -Felix Frankfurter
                                    -Rehnquist
                     -Impact of Nixon appointees

[Begin transcribed portion]

[End of transcribed portion]

       W. Mark Felt
             -Appearance
             -Education
             -Ethnicity
                    -Herbert C. Hoover

       Leaks
               -Kissinger, Burns, Herbert Stein, Safire
                      -Jews
               -Dean

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                                             -10-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                                Conversation No. 865-14 (cont’d)


[End of transcribed portion]

Dean left at 10:23 am.