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Start Date: 2-Mar-1973 12:30 PM

End Date: 2-Mar-1973 12:47 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Cook, Richard K.Findley, PaulSonnenfeldt, Helmut ("Hal")

Recording Device: Oval Office

867-013.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Richard K. Cook, Paul Findley, and Helmut ("Hal") Sonnenfeldt met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:47 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 867-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 867-13

Date: March 2, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:30 pm and 12:47 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Paul Findley, Richard K. Cook, and Helmut (“Hal”) Sonnenfeldt; the
White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

       Greetings

       Photographs

       Meeting with President

       Resolution in Congress on Atlantic Union
            -President’s discussion with Sonnenfeldt
                   -Problem
                   -President’s endorsement of legislation
                         -1951, 1968
                         -Findley’s answer
                         -Compared to Equal Rights Amendment [ERA]
                               -President’s intervention
                                      -State legislatures
                                            -Montana
                         -Letter for use by Findley

       US-Europe relations
           -Problems
           -European security conference
           -President’s sponsorship of Atlantic Union
                 -Problems
                 -Compared with Congressional endorsement
                                    -16-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. June-2010)
                                                      Conversation No. 867-13 (cont’d)


     -Mutual Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]
     -Trade negotiations
     -Common market
     -President’s political capital
           -Atlantic Union compared ERA

Atlantic Union
      -President’s identification with goal
      -Findley’s resolution
            -Language
      -Joint resolution
            -President's signature
                   -Willingness
      -Letter for use by Findley
            -Effects on Europe
                   -Security conference, MBFR
            -Importance of Atlantic community
                   -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
      -Effect on the People's Republic of China [PRC]
            -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
                   -Japan
      -Effects on monetary crisis
            -Note of stability

Resolution's status in Congress
     -House of Representatives
     -Senate
            -Rules Committee
                  -Deadlock
     -Peter H. B. Frelinghuysen
            -Foreign Affairs Committee

John B. Anderson
     -Sponsorship of a resolution
           -Rules Committee
     -Senate candidacy

Foreign policy
      -House, Senate
                                         -17-

                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. June-2010)
                                                           Conversation No. 867-13 (cont’d)


                 -Experience
                      -Anderson, Donald H. Rumsfeld


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]


     Illinois politics
            -Candidates
            -Adlai E. Stevenson, III
                   -Senate experience
                   -Need for opponent
            -Rumsfeld
                   -Ability
                   -Candidacy for Senate
                         -NATO ambassador


[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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      Congressional relations
           -Public support for President
                 -Spending control
                 -Rural Environmental Assistance Program [REAP]
                 -Water and sewer grants
           -March 1, 1973 vote
           -Chance of override of possible veto
                 -Gerald R. Ford
                       -Vocational Rehabilitation bill
                              -Democratic strategy
                                   -Vocational Rehabilitation, Older Americans Act
                                    [Amendment of 1973]
                                   -Ford
           Albert H. Quie
                 -Authorization
           -Appropriations
                                        -18-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. June-2010)
                                                      Conversation No. 867-13 (cont’d)


            -Legislation
            -Impoundment
      -Veto override
            -Support for President
                   -House of Representatives
            -Opposition to tax increase
            -Public relations [PR]
                   -Poll questions
                         -Aid to poor
                               -San Diego
                         -Tax incentives
                               -San Diego
      -Legislative amendments
            -Funding programs
                   -Taxes compared to debt ceiling
      -Veto override
            -Republican support
                   -Vocational Rehabilitation bill [?]
            -Appropriations
      -Issues of taxes
      -1958 veto override
            -Samuel Rayburn, Lyndon B. Johnson
                   -Republican support for Eisenhower veto

Photographs

President’s letter for use by Findley

State of the world message

Sonnenfeldt
     -Treasury appointment
           -Conversation with Henry A. Kissinger
           -George P. Shultz
           -Nature of job
           -Political work
           -Shultz
                  -Economic focus
                       -Europe
                                             -19-

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. June-2010)
                                                             Conversation No. 867-13 (cont’d)



Findley, et al, left at 12:47 pm.