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Start Date: 6-Mar-1973 12:19 PM
End Date: 6-Mar-1973 12:46 PM
Participants:Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Wilson, Jerry V.; Shepard, Geoffrey C.; [Unknown person(s)];
Recording Device: Oval Office
On March 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, John D. Ehrlichman, Jerry V. Wilson, Geoffrey C. Shepard, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:19 pm to 12:46 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 869-017 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 869-17 Date: March 6, 1973 Time: 12:19 pm - 12:46 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler. Executive Order  -43- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. May-2010) Conversation No. 869-17 (cont’d) -Flags at half-mast -Funeral of Cleo Noel and George Moore -President's remarks -Interment -Flags at half-mast -March 7 -Ziegler’s statement Meeting with leaders -Budget -Hugh Scott President's meeting with domestic counsellors -Ziegler's presence -President's approval -Subjects -Confidentiality Press questions -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III -Watergate -Gerald L. Warren [?] -Briefing President's meeting with John W. Dean III -Watergate -Stenographer -Penny Gleason [?] John D. Ehrlichman entered and Ziegler left at 12:20 pm. Meeting with Jerry V. Wilson President's meeting with Hugh Scott -President's handling Ehrlichman’s meeting with Franklyn C. Nofziger [?], Bryce N. Harlow -44- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. May-2010) Conversation No. 869-17 (cont’d) Chief Jerry V. Wilson and Geoffrey C. Shepard entered at 12:21 pm. Members of the press and the White House photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting. Press photograph Announcement Press photograph Inaugural photographs -1969, 1973 Wilson -President’s reappointment -Job performance as police chief -Washington, DC -Difficulties of Wilson's job -Blacks -Problems [Photograph session] -DC police department -Morale Weather -Snow -Cherry blossoms [A transcript of the following portion of the conversation appears in PPP, 1973, p. 168] [End of transcribed portion] Wilson's work -Success -Crime in DC Law enforcement -45- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. May-2010) Conversation No. 869-17 (cont’d) -Louis P. Harris poll -Disapproval -Administration's position on crime -Need for publicity -Wilson’s work -Hard-line stance -Judicial appointments Marijuana -Legalization -Support from leading DC citizens -President's opinion about marihuana compared with its legalization -Law enforcement speech -Ehrlichman President's presence at State Department for memorial service -Support for capital punishment -President's speech -Supreme Court -Richard G. Kleindienst -Statement Sudanese Ambassador [Abdel Aziz al-Nazri Hamza] -Safety -Terrorism -Sudan’s prosecution of suspects in case of US diplomats -Executive Protection Service [EPS] President’s hard-line on crime -Capital punishment -Marijuana -Show of compassion -Chief of police -Mandatory sentences for drug pushers -Nelson A. Rockefeller -Congress -Judges -46- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. May-2010) Conversation No. 869-17 (cont’d) -Drug treatment options -Methadone President's law enforcement speech -Public reception -Content -Statistics, budget -Hard-line issues -Mandatory sentences -Justice Department -William T. Cahill -New Jersey -Rockefeller's support -Public support -Congress -Wilson's opinion Sentencing -Judges -DC jurisdiction -Department of Corrections -Judges -Alternatives to incarceration -President’s request for a study -Half-way houses -President’s support for prisons -Wilson’s opinion -Method of administration President’s law enforcement speech -Judges, parole officers -Criminal rehabilitation compared with public safety Marijuana -Legalization -Youth support -Gateway drug -Compared with alcohol, tobacco, coffee, Coca-Cola -47- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. May-2010) Conversation No. 869-17 (cont’d) -George W. Romney, Mormons -Marriot Selles [?] Crime -Congress -Signal to country -Administration hard-line -Appointment of William H. Rehnquist -Need for controversy, discussion -Political issue -Rockefeller -New York -Drug traffic -Heroin -Decline -Cocaine -Marijuana -Heroin, marihuana use, distribution -Marijuana -Penalties -Severity -Texas -News story -Legalization -Governor Allen Shivers [?] -Death penalties -Richard G. Kleindienst’s statement -Justice Department position -Second offenses -Life sentence -Supreme Court decision -Congressional legislation -List of offenses -Wartime treason, espionage, sabotage, death during commitment of federal crime -Supreme Court support -Kidnapping, hijacking -Automatic imposition in cases involving death -48- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. May-2010) Conversation No. 869-17 (cont’d) -Penalties -Administration's policy -Kleindienst’s statement -Legislation to Congress -Timing -President’s law enforcement speech -Drug abuse -Legislation for Congress -Rockefeller drug laws -Penalties -Heroin President’s meeting at State Department Wilson's plans -DC police chief -Terms of job -Future position in government -Wilson's preferences -Ehrlichman’s role -Walter E. Washington’s opinion -Experience -Desire for change -Training -Crowd control -Travel -Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA] program -Representative of President -Wilson's record -Race relations Wilson's children -President's autograph Brian Wilson -Seven-year-old -Support for George S McGovern Wilson -49- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. May-2010) Conversation No. 869-17 (cont’d) -Golf Gift -Ashtray An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 12:21 pm. Ashtray The unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:46 pm. Gifts -Children -Wife Ehrlichman, Wilson and Sheppard left at an unknown time before 12:46 pm. [Pause] Wilson, et al. continued the conversation in an adjoining room. Introductions -Mistaken identification Wilson, et al. left at 12:36 pm.