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Start Date: 6-Mar-1973 3:42 PM

End Date: 6-Mar-1973 4:20 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Corcoran, Thomas G.[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

870-002.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Thomas G. Corcoran, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:42 pm to 4:20 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 870-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 870-2

Date: March 6, 1973
Time: 3:42 pm - 4:20 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Thomas G. Corcoran.

       Greetings

       Oval Office

       Linda and Claudia A. (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
            -Admiration for artist [?]
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                              Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


      Lyndon B. Johnson
           -Vietnam settlement
                 -Lyndon Johnson’s death, January 22, 1973
           -Place in history
                 -Vietnam settlement
           -Gratitude by Mrs. Johnson
                 -The President's call to Lyndon B. Johnson prior to his death

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 3:42 pm.

      Refreshment

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 4:20 pm.

      Corcoran
           -President's gratitude for advice
           -Last election
                 -Stakes

      John W. McCormack
           -Visit with Corcoran to Lyndon B. Johnson Library
                 -Reception for George S. McGovern
                        -Oral history transcription
           -Inauguration
           -Support for foreign policy
                 -Importance to President
                 -Unity
           -Gratitude to President
                 -Reception
           -Invitation to Golda Meir dinner
                 -Overnight stay in White House
                        -Arrangements
                              -Lincoln Room
           -Retirement
                 -Anonymity

      John B. Connally
           -Corcoran’s acquaintance
                 -Idanell Connally
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                        Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


           -University of Texas Law School
     -Presidential candidate
           -Political alignment in US
                  -Jim Rose [?]

Corcoran
     -Meeting with Connally
            -Democrats for Nixon
            -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
            -Candidacy
                  -Party identification
                  -Public support
     -First job in Washington, DC
            -Herbert C. Hoover, Jesse H. Jones
     -Party identification
     -Support for President
            -Boldness

Walter Bedell Smith
     -Party affiliation
     -Abilities
     -John Foster Dulles
     -Service to Dwight D. Eisenhower
     -Jerry Persons

Corcoran's White House experience
     -Jesse Jones
           -Work as corporate lawyer
     -Franklin D. Roosevelt
           -Unofficial secretary

[Anna] Eleanor Roosevelt
     -President's first encounter during World War II
           -South Pacific
                  -Noumea, New Caledonia

Franklin Roosevelt
     -Robert Sherwood's biography
     -Charm
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                      Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


     -Courage
          -Compared to President
                -Larry Stewart [?]
     -Meeting with Corcoran
          -Tyrus R. (“Ty”) Cobb
                -Batting record

Corcoran
     -Judgment of men
     -Judgment of Connally

US foreign and domestic policy
     -Economic warfare
     -Public opinion
     -Korean War
           -Japan
                 -Technology
     -Marshall Plan
           -Facsimile machine [?]
           -Creation of competitors
     -Public opinion
           -Economic opportunity
                 -Land, airspace

Connally
     -Abilities
     -Project
           -Assignment by President
                 -Energy crisis
                      -Compared with Jesse Jones
                             -Banking crisis
                             -Franklin Roosevelt
                      -Corcoran’s experience in energy sector
                             -Texaco [?]
                             -Oil and gas
                             -Nuclear power
     -New role
     -Democrats working with Republicans
           -Model of Jesse Jones
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                             Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


                     -Herbert Hoover
                -Example for other Democrats
           -Income
                -Houses, mortgage


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      Connally’s nomination for president
           -President’s endorsement
           -Problems with party switch
                  -Democrats
                        -Dominance by Left-wing
                               -1972 election
                                     -George C. Wallace
                        -Rules changes in House of Representatives
                               -Democratic Study Group
                               -Richard Bolling
                                     -Albert Cole
                               -Wilbur D. Mills
                                     -Cloture rules
           -Republican nomination
                  -Southern support
           -Political support
                  -Mountain and plains states
                  -California, Ohio
           -Republican opposition
                  -Charles H. Percy
                        -Decision making ability
                               -Foreign policy
                        -Compared to Hubert H. Humphrey
                               -Warmth, heart
                  -Spiro T. Agnew
                  -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                        -Age
                  Ronald W. Reagan
                        -Age
           -Age of former presidents and leaders at death
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                       Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


          -Franklin Roosevelt
          -Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt
          -Hoover
          -Gen. Charles A. J. M. DeGaulle and Konrad Adenauer
          -Dwight D. Eisenhower and Winston S. Churchill
          -Post-65 years
                -Lyndon Johnson [?]
                       -Stroke
     -Connally’s age
          -Vigor
                -Overexertion
     -Courage
     -Leadership abilities
          -Compared to Rockefeller

Jewish leaders
     -Taft Schreiber, [unintelligible name]
     -Max Fischer
     -Democratic supporters
     -Support for President
           -Previous support for Humphrey, Henry M. (‘Scoop”) Jackson
     -Support for Connally

James Farley
     -Talk with Corcoran
           -Connally

Connally
     -Future in Democratic Party
     -1974 election
     -Party switch
     -Melvin R. Laird
           -Talk with Corcoran
                 -Jesse Jones
           -Party switch
                 -Timing
                 -Strategy
                       -Work with administration on special project
           -Candidacy for Presidency
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                               Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


                          -Problems of early start
                                -Rockefeller, Reagan, Agnew
                          -Preparations

      Corcoran’s party affiliation

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An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 3:42 pm.

      Gifts
              -Presidential cuff links

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 4:20 pm.

      Cuff links
            -Color
            -Value


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      Corcoran
           -Help with Connally
           -Party allegiances
                 -Robert C. Hill [?]
                 -Republican Party posts
                        -District Attorney of New York
                        -Secretary to Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. [?]
                        -Hoover’s administration
                 -Switch to Democrats
                        -Lack of Republican boldness
                 -Support for President
                 -Democratic Party
                        -Demise
                 -New party system
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                              Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


                       -Liberal and conservative
                 -Third party name

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      President’s image
            -Benjamin Disraeli
            -Comparison with Robert Walpole
                  -Bernard Baruch
            -Frederick S. Oliver's book, Endless Adventure of Governing Men
                  -Walpole
                        -Impact on 18th century England and effect on unity and later
                         Napoleonic challenge
                        -Compared with President

      Corcoran
           -Children
                 -Vietnam veteran
                       -Harvard Law School
                       -Work in District Attorney’s office
           -Work with Connally
           -Robert Hill
           -Link with Lyndon Johnson during Eisenhower administration
                 -Corcoran’s retention of Democrat affiliation
                 -Anecdote from George B. Shaw's Caesar and Cleopatra
                  and from Plutarch's works
                       -Rolled carpet analogy

      1968 election
           -Anna C. Chennault, Herbert G. Klein
                  -Acquaintance with Corcoran
                        -Air America
                              -Corcoran’s ownership of predecessor
                              -Executive
                  -Claire L. Chennault
                        -Death
                        -Governor of Louisiana
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                     Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


                 -Maj. Gen. [first name unknown] Cooper
                 -Corcoran
           -Letter to President
                 -Request for interview with President
     -Wealth [?]

Offer to help President
      -Support for Democrats
      -Support for Connally
      -Vietnam War

Prisoners of war [POWs]
      -Meeting with President
      -Olin E. "Tiger" Teague
      -Wives
            -Meetings with President
      -Age
      -Length of captivity
      -Conditions of captivity
      -Sense of pride
            -Support for President
                  -B-52 bombings
                        -December 1972

Khartoum incident

US ambassadors
     -Brig. Gen. Henry A. Byroade
           -Ambassador to Philippines
           -Acquaintance with Corcoran
                 -China
           -Appointment to Sudan
           -Head of Near East Division
                 Egypt, Afghanistan
           -Accident

US strategic interests
      -New Caledonia
      -Corcoran’s mission to Micronesia
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                  Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


     -US Navy
     -United Nations [UN] mission [?]
     -Yap, Pulau, Ponape
           -Military bases
     -Maurice R. Greenberg
           -Protégé of W. Clement Stone
           -C. V. Starr and Co., Inc.
                  -Ponape
           -Sullivan [?] Life Insurance Co.
     -Interest in Philippines
           -Ferdinand E. Marcos
                  -Assassination
           -Civil war
           -Subic Bay naval base
-Micronesia
     -Edward E. Johnston [High Commissioner for the Trust Territory of the Pacific
      Islands (TTPI)]
     -Johnston’s wife
           -Honolulu
           -Departure
                  -Rats at a hotel
                  -Compared to William McCormick Blair, Jr’s wife
     -Independence
           -Peace Corps
           -Congress of Micronesia
                  -Corcoran’s experience
                        -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]-funded legal
                         advisors
     -Naval presence
           -Newport News
           -Aircraft carrier
     -Byroade
           -Johnston’s replacement
     -Tourism
           -Continental Airlines
           -Hotels
     -Water supply
           -Pulau, Truk
     -Sewage facilities
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                            Conversation No. 870-2 (cont’d)


                   -Roads

       Exit door

       Corcoran’s assistance
            -Connally [?]

       Photographs

       Byroade
            -Middle East, Pakistan
            -Donald McI. Kendall
                 -Philippines

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:42 pm.

       Photographers

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:20 pm.

       Corcoran's health

Corcoran left at 4:20 pm.