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Start Date: 27-Mar-1973 8:54 AM

End Date: 27-Mar-1973 9:44 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

888-002a.mp3

888-002b.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 27, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:54 am to 9:44 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 888-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 888-2

Date: March 27, 1973
Time: 8:54 am - 9:44 am
Location: Oval Office

Henry A. Kissinger met with an unknown person.

          Agreement

[Pause]

          Refreshment
               -Breakfast
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[Pause]

The President entered at an unknown time after 8:54 am.

          Kissinger's schedule
                -Acapulco, Mexico
                      -Meetings
                            -Miguel Aleman
                                   -Admiration for President
                                   -Characterization of President
                            -[First name unknown] Diaz [?]
                                   -Wife
                      -President’s previous visit to Mexico
                            -Arrangements
                      -Foreign ministers
                      -Aristotle and Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
                            -Kissinger at dinner
                                   -Loel Guinness
                            -Praise for President
                                   -Aristotle Onassis
                                   -Jacqueline Onassis's characterization of the
                                    President's accomplishments
                            -John F. Kennedy's accomplishments
                                   -Death
                                   -Demeanor
                                         -Jacqueline Onassis's reaction
                      -Jacqueline Onassis
                            -Support for President's accomplishments
                                   -Aristotle Onassis
                                         -Future of West

          US
                -Future of West
                -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                      -Problems

          Vietnam
               -Prisoners of war [POWs]
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                               Tape Subject Log
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                                                      Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


           -Press statement
                  -Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
           -Vindication for President
           -Release
                  -Delays
     -Kissinger's meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
           -President’s warning
     -USSR equipment to North Vietnam
           -Impact on relations with US
           -Message from Leonid I. Brezhnev
           -Halt of shipments
           -People's Republic of China [PRC] route
     -President's March 2, 1973 press conference
     -Cease-fire
           -Deescalation of incidents
                  -Infiltration
                  -Reasons
                         -Weather
                  -Impact of warning
                  -Time of year
                         -1972 spring events
                                -Easter weekend
                                -Camp David
                                -South Vietnam

President's press conference
      -Freeze on food prices
      -Format

Vietnam
     -President's announcement
           -POW release
           -Troop withdrawal
     -President's speech
           -Future action
                  -Perception of involvement
           -Domestic issues
                  -Food prices
                  -Inflation
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                               Tape Subject Log
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                                                         Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


                  -Overspending
                        -Support for Congress members
                  -Military budget
                        -Resistance to cuts

President's forthcoming speech
      -Budget ceiling
             -Explanation to public
      -Military budget
             -Progress toward peace
                    -PRC
                    -USSR
                    -Vietnam settlement
             -Resistance to cuts
             -Cuts
                    -Impact on arms agreements, reduction of troops, peace
             -Controversy
      -Kissinger's talking points
             -Length of speech
             -Veterans
                    -Respect
                    -POWs
             -Support of American people
             -Dissent
                    -Protest marchers
                    -Cambodia
                    -Haiphong
                    -December 1972 bombings
             -Firmness of American people
      -Vietnam
             -Level of dissension
             -Support from people
             -Liberal attacks
      -Appeal for support
             -Inflation
             -Strength of America
             -Peace

Watergate
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                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. July-2010)
                                                       Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


     -Civil libertarians
           -John J. Sirica's sentencing of G. Gordon Liddy
                  -Harshness
                         -First offenders
     -Senate counsel
           -Changes in public
     -Comparison with Joseph McCarthy period
     -Alger Hiss case
           -Attacks on President
                  -New York Times, Washington Post
           -Court case
     -Media
           -Double standard

Vietnam settlement
     -Accomplishments
           -Peace in world
                -Cold War in East-West relations, Middle East, Uganda
           -Credit in history

Foreign policy
      -Opening to [PRC]
            -Credit in history
            -Motives
                   -Private and public
                         -Politics
      -PRC
            -Ambassadorial appointment
                   -Timing
      -Ronald L. Ziegler's briefing
      -Vietnam
            -Offensive in 1972
                   -Press reports
            -POW, troop withdrawal
            -Nguyen Van Thieu
            -Settlement
                   -Achievements
            -POW release
            -South Vietnam
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. July-2010)
                                                Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


             -Survival chances
             -PRC, USSR
      -Negotiations
             -Delays
             -Timing
                   -POW release
-Cambodia
      -Air strikes
             -US legal rights
                   -Comment for Ziegler
                   -Gulf of Tonkin Resolution
                   -Vietnam settlement
                   -Southeast Asia Treaty Organization [SEATO]
                   -Congressional strictures
-Laos
      -Air strikes
             -US legal rights
                   -Cease-fire violations
                          -Liberal reaction
                   -Congressional actions
-Vietnam settlement
      -Enforcement
             -Ferocity
             -Possibility of further military action
             -Durability
      -Undermining by war opponents
      -North Vietnam
             -Complaint
             -Credibility of President
-Treaty for the Prevention of Nuclear War
      -USSR’s acceptance
      -Counter-draft
-POW release
      -Operation Homecoming
             -Letters to State and Defense Departments
                   -Congratulations
                   -Frank A. Sieverts [?]
                   -Scowcroft
                   -Rogers
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. July-2010)
                                                              Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


                         -Letter to Melvin R. Laird
                               -Praise for Vietnamization
              -Vietnam
                    -Vietnamization
                          -Success
                               -Letter to Laird
                                     -Medal


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      Laird
              -Political activities
                     -Wisconsin
              -Vacation in Mexico
              -Political activities
                     -Insurance executives’ convention
                           -Financing
              -Candidate for vice president
              -Qualities
                     -Compared to Spiro T. Agnew

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      Vietnam
           -Letters of congratulations
                 -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS] chairman
                 -Defense Secretary
                 -Operation Homecoming
                 -Former ambassadors to South Vietnam
           -Loss of Vietnam
                 -November 3, 1969 speech
                 -Cambodia
                 -Laos
                        -Margin for North Vietnam’s victory
                        -1971 offensive
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. July-2010)
                                                      Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


                        -Impact on North Vietnam
      -Press criticism
            -Divisiveness
            -Thieu
      -Peace settlement
            -Clark M. Clifford
                   -Criticism
                          -Coalition government
            -Posterity's judgment
            -Negotiations
                   -North Vietnam’s proposals
            -US withdrawal
                   -Criticism
      -May 8, 1972 decision
            -Impact on US-USSR summit

PRC
      -Relations with USSR

US foreign policy
     -President's successors
           -Ability to carry on President's foreign policy
           -Nelson A. Rockefeller
           -John B. Connally
           -Ronald W. Reagan
           -Connally
                  -Subtlety
     -Latin America
           -Kissinger's meeting with Luis Echevarria Alvarez
                  -Echeverria's plans
                        -Kissinger's response
                        -Anti-American comments
           -President's meeting with Organization of American States [OAS] Head,
            Carlos de Santamaria
                  -Nixon Doctrine
                  -William J. Jordan
                        -Work with Santamaria
           -Kissinger's meeting with Mexico’s foreign minister
                  -Meeting with Rogers
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. July-2010)
                                                   Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


                 -Value
     -Latin American charter
           -Preparation
           -Announcement
                 -Mexicans, Brazilians
                 -Cubans
                 -Chileans
     -Cuban fisherman
           -State Department action
                 -Return to Cuba
                 -President’s orders
                 -Liberal editorial writers’ reaction
     -Cuba
           -President's future policy
                 -Rogers
           -US relations with Fidel Castro
           -Mexico’s relations with Cuba
                 -Cuban foreign minister
                 -Panama meeting [?]
     -Santamaria
           -Need for new charter
                 -Economic development
                 -Military development
                 -Political development
           -Comments on OAS
     -Latin American ambassadorships
           -Numbers
                 -OAS
                 -US
                 -United Nations [UN]
     -Future US strategy
-European relations
     -France, Great Britain
     -Willy Brandt
     -European summit
           -Atlantic Charter
     -Latin American summit
-USSR summit
     -Leonid I. Brezhnev’s visit
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. July-2010)
                                                   Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


-Chou En-lai’s visit
-Japan
      -Visit by [Emperor of Japan] Hirohito
      -President's visit in 1974
             -PRC and USSR
-Africa
      -President's trip
             -Problems
             -Priority
-Guilio Andreotti visit
-President's visits
      -Edward R. G. Heath
      -Brandt
      -Georges J. R. Pompidou
      -Africa
             -Value
      -Statesmanship
             -Domestic issues
      -Pompidou
             -Meeting place
                    -Martinique
                    -Arrangements
                          -Prior to US-USSR summit
      -Brandt
      -Pompidou
-Mohammed Reza Pahlavi [Shah of Iran]
      -Visit to US
-Foreign visitors
      -Kakuei Tanaka
      -Public relations [PR]
      -Brezhnev
-President’s visit
      -Europe
      -Latin America
             -Brazil
             -Mexico
             -Venezuela
             -Mexico
                    -Meeting of Latin American presidents
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
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                                                      Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


                             -Location
                                   -Mexico City
                                   -Cozumel
                                         -Yucatan peninsula
                                   -Guadalajara
                       -Mexico City
                             -Control
                             -Lyndon B. Johnson’s visit
                 -Brazil, Venezuela, Columbia
                 -Venezuela
                       -Caracas
                       -Security
                 -Nixon Charter
                       -Meeting of Latin American presidents
                             -Cozumel
                       -New OAS
                       -Atlantic Charter
                             -Franklin D. Roosevelt
           -Africa
                 -Election year
           -Japan, USSR, PRC
                 -Timing of events
           -Time of year
           -PRC
           -Chou
                 -Reception in US
PRC
      -Ambassador to US
          -Qualities
          -Announcement
          -Meeting with President

US foreign policy
     -President's visits
           -Atlantic Charter
           -Latin America
           -Japan
     -Second-rate defense
     -President's achievements
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                   Tape Subject Log
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                                                           Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


                -Toughness
                -Respect
          -Kissinger's Mexico trip
          -OAS focus
          -Latin America
                -Economic development
                -Actions
                      -Expropriations
                           -Peru
                           -Chile
                                  -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
                                         -Senate investigation
                                         -Salvador Allende Gossens
                                         -Meeting with Kissinger
                                         -Offer of money
                -US corporations
                      -Support for free enterprise candidates


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                     -1970 election
                           -Allende's margin
                                  -Opponents
                                        -Impeachment possibility
          -New York Times editorial
               -Japan, Europe, PRC, USSR and focus of US foreign relations
                     -President's record
                           -Compared with Kennedy, Johnson
                           -Consultations
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. July-2010)
                                                             Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)


                                   -Europe
                                   -Meeting with communist leaders
                   -Motives
                         -Contrarianism
                   -Administration dealings with New York Times
                         -Compared with Washington Post
                   -Desire for attention from administration

       POWs
          -Laos
                   -Administration's position
                       -Press criticism
                       -Support from POW families
                              -National League of American Families
                                     -Wives
                       -Press criticism

       US foreign policy
            -Mexico
                  -Credit for President
                         -Aleman
                         -Mexican foreign minister
                  -President, Rogers
                  -Depth of reaction
            -Vietnam War settlement
                  -Operation Homecoming
                         -Letters of thanks
                               -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, Elliot L. Richardson
                               -Roger E. Shields [?]
                         -Major General Gilbert H. [?] Woodward
                               -Saigon
                               -Letter of thanks

Kissinger left at 9:44 am.
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. July-2010)
                                                               Conversation No. 888-2 (cont’d)