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Start Date: 18-Apr-1973 11:22 AM

End Date: 18-Apr-1973 12:11 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Andreotti, GiulioCagiatti, AndreaSeidenman, Neil A.Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

900-008.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 18, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Giulio Andreotti, Andrea Cagiatti, Neil A. Seidenman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:22 am to 12:11 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 900-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 900-8

Date: April 18, 1973
Time: 11:22 am - 12:11 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Giulio Andreotti, Andrea Cagiatti, and Neil A. Seidenman. Portions of
this conversation are in Italian.

     Greetings

     [Italian language spoken]

     International trade       

           -Meeting        


     [Italian language spoken]

Henry A. Kissinger entered at 11:24 am.

     Congressional relations       

          -Senate       


     International trade     

           -Bilateral trade     

                 -Technical and diplomatic exchanges     

           -Tariffs and customs duties 

                 -Preparatory work       

                 -Reductions       

           -[General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs] Kennedy round 

                 -Problems       

           -Japan        


     [Italian language spoken]
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. July-2012)

                                                        Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)

Communist propaganda
    -Europe
    -Multinational capitalism
    -Public relations [PR]
          -Coordination        

                 -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]       


[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan        

            -Andreotti’s visit     

            -US viewpoint        

            -Marketing         

                   -US, Europe, and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
            -Andreotti’s visit
                   -Meeting with Kakuei Tanaka
            -Trade with PRC

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japanese trade with PRC
            -PRC exports

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan
            -Balance of trade
                   -Amount

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan’s US export market
                                         -11-


             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                Tape Subject Log 

                                 (rev. July-2012)

                                                     Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan-US trade balance
            -US measures
                   -Equity

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan-US markets
            -Access

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -European Economic Community [EEC]
            -Trade policies
                   -Anti-dumping
                   -Domestic industries

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan’s Europe export market

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan-Europe trade business
            -Capitol and trade markets

[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan
            -Bargaining
                                             -12-


               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. July-2012)

                                                         Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)


[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan
            -Diplomacy
            -Orientation

[Italian language spoken]

Japan
        -Tanaka
             -Tenure

[Italian language spoken]


Japan
        -Tanaka
             -Nationalism
                   -Yoshido, Ikada, Nobusuke Kishi, Eisaku Sato

[Italian language spoken]

Japan
        -Youth
             -Nationalism

[Italian language spoken]

Japan
        -Relationship with PRC
        -Relations with industrial nations

[Italian language spoken]

Japan-Italy relations
                                         -13-

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. July-2012)

                                                            Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)

        -Andreotti’s visit to Japan 

             -Conciliation, realism

             -Japan’s trade balance      


[Italian language spoken]

International trade
      -Japan’s PRC exports
             -Andreotti’s conversation with Japanese industrialists 

                   -Tokyo Olympic Games [1964]          

                   -Trade balance          

                   -Clandestine transactions       

                         -Hong Kong          

             -Japan-Soviet Union relations       

                   -Concessions        

      -Italy-Japan relations       

             -Japan’s advantage        

                   -Shipbuilding         

                         -Market share         

                         -Prices     

                   -Bilateral agreements

[Italian language spoken]

Italy-Soviet Union relations
      -Andreotti’s visit, October 1972
            -Soviet Union ambassador        

                  -Rome statement         

                  -Timing        

                  -Soviet Union-Japan trade relations        

                         -Effect on Italy

[Italian language spoken]

Japan
        -Trade unions
             -Wage, price increases
                                         -14-


             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                Tape Subject Log 

                                 (rev. July-2012)

                                                        Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)

                 -Competitive advantage

[Italian language spoken]

Argentina
     -Andreotti’s talks with Juan Peron and H. J. Campora
     -Relations with US and Italy

[Italian language spoken]

Argentina
     -Relations with US
           -War in 1943
                 -Peron
     -Relations with Italy     

           -Cultural ties    

           -Support for US       

                 -Latin America      

                 -Peace     


[Italian language spoken]

Argentina-US relations
     -Trade union contracts

[Italian language spoken]

US-Latin America relations
    -Nelson A. Rockefeller’s visit to Argentina
          -Prime Minister’s remarks
    -US trade union interest [George Meany] 

          -Kissinger       

          -Argentina        

                -Peronista outlook

[Italian language spoken]
                                          -15-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. July-2012)

                                                      Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)

US-Latin America relations
    -Trade unions

[Italian language spoken]

US-Europe relations
    -Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR]
          -Andreotti’s views
                 -US Congress
                      -Senate Foreign Relations Committee
                      -President’s appreciation

[Italian language spoken]

US-Europe relations
    -MBFR
          -Soviet Union agreement
                 -Soviet Union military
          -Concessions       

                 -Dangers      

                 -Soviet Union actions           

                 -Symbolism       

    -Europe’s defense burden
          -US involvement        

    -MBFR, CSCE linkage          

    -US defense commitments          


[Italian language spoken]

US-Europe relations
    -Shared defense burden
          -US Congress

[Italian language spoken]

US-Europe relations
    -Defense spending
                                      -16-


             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. July-2012)

                                                       Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)

           -Problem

[Italian language spoken]

US-Europe relations
    -Defense spending
          -US Congress
          -Soviet Union
          -Disarmament

[Italian language spoken]

US-Europe relations
    -Defense
          -Rome example
                 -Frontiers

[Italian language spoken]

US-Europe relations
    -Domestic policies
          -Radicals
                 -Surrender
                 -Cowardice
                 -Enemies
    -Strength of US, NATO
          -President’s negotiations with Soviet Union, PRC
                 -Commitment

[Italian language spoken]

US-Europe relations
    -President’s talks with Aleksi N. Kosygin
    -Domestic politics
          -Public opinion

[Italian language spoken]
                                         -17-


              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. July-2012)

                                                       Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)


Andreotti’s schedule
     -US Congress luncheon

[Italian language spoken]

Andreotti’s schedule
     -US Congress
            -Significance

[Italian language spoken]

Andreotti’s schedule
     -US Congress
            -State diner

[Italian language spoken]

President’s talks with Andreotti
      -Reassurance

[Italian language spoken]

Andreotti
     -Realism
     -Risk

[Italian language spoken]

Andreotti
     -Compared to Alcide De Gasperi
          -Kissinger

[Italian language spoken]

Andreotti
     -De Gasperi
                                               -18-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                         Tape Subject Log 

                                          (rev. July-2012)

                                                              Conversation No. 900-8 (cont’d)


      [Italian language spoken]

      US-Europe relations
          -Defense
                -Andreotti’s experience
                       -Talks with Kosygin
                       -NATO planning
                             -Future role

The President et al. left at 12:11 pm.