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Conversation: 913-003

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Start Date: 8-May-1973 5:16 PM

End Date: 8-May-1973 5:42 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

913-003.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:16 pm to 5:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 913-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 913-3

Date: May 8, 1973
Time: 5:16 pm - 5:42 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Watergate
          -John W. Dean III
                -Possible immunity by Ervin Committee
                -Possible testimony
                      -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, John N. Mitchell and
                       President
                -Meetings with President
                      -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                -Guidance to White House
                -Expression of confidence by White House on March 26
                      -Diane Sawyer
                      -James W. McCord, Jr.’s letter
                      -Ziegler’s conversation with Richard A. Moore
                -Gerald L. Warren’s opinion of Dean’s confidence
                                   -7-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                           Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. January-2012)

                                                    Conversation No. 913-3 (cont’d)

      -Investigation of Watergate          

            -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] interviews 

                   -Access to records          

      -Moore        

      -Haldeman, Ehrlichman            

      -Possible attacks on President         

-Time cover
-William Proxmire
      -Attack on press, May 8
-Dean
      -Meetings with President           

            -President’s concerns in Autumn 1972        

            -Guidance sessions with Ziegler        

            -President’s perceptions         

            -Haldeman’s remembrance

      -Praise by President         

            -Ehrlichman and Haldeman             

      -Possible testimony before Ervin Committee 

            -Attacks on President          

            -Possible response          

                   -[Horace] Chapman (“Chappie”) Rose
                   -President
                   -Senate
-President’s desire for full disclosure
      -Meeting, March 10
      -Moore and Ehrlichman
      -Donald H. Segretti
      -Haldeman
-Funds for defendants
      -President’s knowledge
      -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
            -Knowledge           

            -Intent      

            -$350,000          

      -Herbert W. Kalmbach           

      -President’s meeting with Thomas A. Pappas 

            -Mitchell        

                                  -8-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                           Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. January-2012)

                                                   Conversation No. 913-3 (cont’d)

-Overthrow of Ngo Dinh Diem
      -President’s statement concerning John F. Kennedy’s role at press conference
             -New York Times
             -Forged cable
             -Charles W. Colson
             -Marguerite Higgins’s book, Our Vietnam Nightmare
             -Malcom E. Smith, Jr.’s book, Kennedy’s Thirteen Great Mistakes in the
              White House
             -Colson and Cable
                   -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
             -Ziegler’s forthcoming conversation with New York Times
             -Timing of President’s previous statements
      -Death of Diem
-Dean
      -Documents
             -Memoranda of conversation [Memcons]
-Ziegler’s forthcoming meeting with Senate Committee staff members
      -Ziegler’s notes
             -Questions on Watergate
-Dean
      -Investigation of Watergate         

             -Comment to Warren           

             -Warren’s notes        

      -Possible testimony before Ervin Committee
             -Grand jury
                   -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell and Jeb Stuart Magruder
             -Rose
      -Executive privilege        

             -Haig’s view       

             -Dean       

             -White House position          

             -President’s papers        

             -Conversation with President        

                   -Criminal activity         

             -National security       

                   -J. Edgar Hoover’s activities    

      -Dean       

                                                -9-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                         Tape Subject Log 

                                        (rev. January-2012)

                                                                 Conversation No. 913-3 (cont’d)

                           -Possible White House counterattack
                                 -Leaks
                           -Subornation of perjury
                                 -Magruder
                           -Role
                                 -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                           -Conversations with President
                                 -March 21, 1971

Ziegler left at 5:42 pm.