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Start Date: 11-May-1973 9:19 AM

End Date: 11-May-1973 10:10 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

916-011.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:19 am to 10:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 916-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 916-11

Date: May 11, 1973
Time: 9:19 am - 10:10 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

     Haig’s schedule        

          -Breakfast         


     Watergate
          -President’s conversation with Ronald L. Ziegler, May 11 

                -Indictments of Maurice H. Stans and John N. Mitchell 

                -House of Representatives      

                      -Vote      

                            -Defense spending       

          -White House actions, May 10 

                -Press coverage      


     Henry A. Kissinger 

          -Mood       


     William P. Rogers 

           -Duration in office     

                 -Soviet Summit       

           -Relationship with Kissinger      

           -Possible replacement as Secretary of State 

                 -Kissinger      

                 -John B. Connally      


     Kissinger      

           -Forthcoming meeting with President 

           -Conversation with Haig      

                 -Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
                      -Negotiations
                            -Impact of Soviet Union, Europe
                                         -14-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. August-2012)

                                                       Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

                               -Public Relations [PR]
                                     -Accomplishments
                               -Kissinger’s role
                                     -Great Britain
                                     -Leaks
                                     -Compared to Rogers, State Department
                        -Rogers’s support         

      -Tenure in office      

            -Soviet Summit        

      -Rogers       

            -Cambodia        

                  -Article 20 [Vietnam peace agreement]       

                  -Statement to Congress         

      -Forthcoming meeting with Le Duc Tho

Cambodia
    -Vote in Congress
         -Defense spending

President’s schedule
      -Kissinger
            -Rogers

Kissinger
      -Mood
      -Possible resignation
            -President’s response      

            -Motives       

      -President’s recording of conversations 


White House taping system
     -Extent
           -Oval Office, Camp David, Lincoln Sitting Room, Executive Office Building
            [EOB] and telephone calls
     -Possible effect on Kissinger

Haig’s conversation with Kissinger
                                        -15-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. August-2012)

                                                      Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)


Watergate
     -Wiretaps
     -Mitchell, Stans

Kissinger
      -Compared to President, Haig
      -President’s opinion
      -Possible resignation
      -Jewishness
      -Possible removal from office

Connally
     -Possible role as Secretary of State
     -Meeting with Roy L. Ash, May 10
     -Schedule
           -Possible trip to Soviet Union 

     -Possible role in White House 


Kissinger
      -Role in White House
            -Compared to Connally           

      -Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War 

      -Soviet Summit preparation         

      -Possible position as Secretary of State 

            -Compared with Connally           

      -European summit         

      -Relations with Israel      

      -Views on Middle East 

            -Possible regional war        

            -Joseph J. Sisco       


Foreign relations
      -Israel
            -Kissinger      

                  -Meeting with Mohammed Hafiz Ismail       

                  -US strategy    

                                        -16-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. August-2012)

                                                     Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)


Kissinger
      -Possible departure from office
            -Connally
      -Perception of White House viability
            “Georgetown friends”
      -Views on departures of H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman
      -Role in White House
      -Compared with Connally
      -White House tapes
            -Release

White House taping system
     -President’s knowledge
           -Haldeman’s departure       

     -Haig’s possible conversation with Kissinger 

     -Extent of system

           -Cabinet Room

     -President’s knowledge         

     -Possible use       

     -Possible effects of release 

     -Lyndon B. Johnson’s system

     -Recording of present conversation 

     -Extent      

           -Cabinet Room, EOB, Lincoln Sitting Room, telephone calls
                 -Haig’s opinion

Kissinger
      -Possible response
      -Possible future role
            -Timing       

                  -Soviet Summit    


Connally
     -Secretary of State    

           -White House position        

           -Compared to Kissinger           

                                          -17-

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. August-2012)

                                                      Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

            -Advocacy
            -Foreign relations     

                  -Europe        

                  -Japan       

                  -Soviet Union      

                  -People’s Republic of China [PRC]     

                        -Compared to Kissinger

Haig’s schedule

Kissinger
      -Forthcoming meeting with President
            -Negotiations with Soviet Union [?]

Elliot L. Richardson
       -Special Prosecutor
       -Conversation with Haig, May 10
       -Possible conversation with the President
       -Confirmation

President’s schedule
      -Speech on election reform
            -Ziegler
      -Bipartisan congressional leaders

Watergate
     -J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.
            -Conversation with John C. Stennis
                 -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
                 -Herman Talmadge’s forthcoming conversation with Ervin
                 -Elliot L. Richardson’s forthcoming conversation with Samuel Dash
     -Special Prosecutor       

            -Warren E. Hearnes        

            -Haig’s forthcoming call to Richardson 

     -Haig’s phone conversation with William P. Rogers 

            -Warren E. Burger       

     -Senate hearings       

                                           -18-


                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                    Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. August-2012)

                                                           Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

              -John McClellan, Howard H. Baker, Jr., and Talmadge
                    -Stennis
              -Stennis’s views
         -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] 

              -William C. Sullivan        

              -William D. Ruckelshaus        

              -W. Mark Felt        

                    -Statements concerning wiretaps
                    -Leaks
                    -New York Times information
              -Wiretaps
                    -Morton Halperin
                          -Conversation with Daniel Ellsberg, 1970
                          -President’ culpability


***************************************************************** 


BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9 

[Privacy] 

[Duration: 9 s ] 


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9

*****************************************************************


    Watergate      

         -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] 

              -Wiretaps        

                     -Ehrlichman        

                           -Telephone call to Robert C. Mardian regarding records
                     -Destruction of tapes
                     -Possible effect on Ellsberg case
                     -Halperin
                           -Ellsberg
                     -Ehrlichman
                                  -19-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                           Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. August-2012)

                                                  Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

     -Felt       

             -Richardson’s view on New York Times leak 

             -Motives regarding Sullivan    

                   -Appointment of director
-Wiretaps
     -Records in White House
     -Buzhardt’s knowledge
           -Melvin R. Laird             

     -Ehrlichman          

           -Conversation with the President regarding records 

     -Ellsberg and Halperin            

           -Haig’s forthcoming conversation with Buzhardt       

     -Numbers of newsmen               

     -Possible White House response          

           -J. Edgar Hoover’s authorization of taps
           -National Security Council [NSC] leaks       

                 -Firings       

                 -Halperin          

                 -Daniel I. Davidson        

     -Records        

           -Joseph C. Kraft           

           -Henry Brandon             

           -Possible release of wiretaps       

     -Sullivan’s forthcoming testimony, May 11 

           -Sullivan’s conversation with Haig       

                 -Hoover          

                         -NSC           

     -John N. Mitchell’s role             

           -John F. Kennedy-Ramsay W. Clark directive 

     -White House response              

     -Necessity        

     -President’s role        

     -J. Edgar Hoover’s role             

           -Brandon         

     -Necessity        

     -Sullivan’s forthcoming testimony         

           -Richardson’s confirmation
                                             -20-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. August-2012)

                                                           Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

              -Richardson’s views        

                    -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.      

                           -Ellsberg     

              -Halperin        

                    -Ellsberg      

         Richardson       

              -Confirmation        

                    -Sullivan
                           -Forthcoming testimony
                           -Telephone conversation with Ruckelshaus
                           -Forthcoming testimony
                                 -Leaks
                                 -Hoover
                                 -Memoranda on wiretaps
                                      -Kissinger
                                      -Ehrlichman
                                            -NSC
         -Wiretaps      

              -Supreme Court decision        

              -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.        

                    -Ehrlichman’s comments


***************************************************************** 


BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11 

[Law enforcement] 

[Duration: 10 s ] 


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11

*****************************************************************


    Watergate        

         -Hunt        

                 -Second-story jobs      

                                          -21-


                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. August-2012)

                                                          Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

                    -Brookings Institute and Georgetown
         -Wiretaps      

              -Hunt       

              -Supreme Court decision         

                    -Timing regarding India-Pakistan conflict
              -Haig’s possible meeting with Buzhardt
                    -Ziegler’s possible statement
         -FBI
              -Felt
                    -Leak to New York Times
                    -Richardson and Sullivan
                    -Time magazine
              -Possible director
                    -Unnamed law school dean
                          -Frank Connally [?]
              -Sullivan
                    -Knowledge
                          -Johnson 1968 wiretapping
                    -View of Felt
                    -Hoover’s view
                    -Forthcoming testimony
                          -Wiretaps
                          -Possible press coverage
         -Wiretaps      

              -President’s conversation with Hoover       

              -Mitchell’s role      

              -Sullivan’s forthcoming testimony       

                    -Haig’s conversation with Sullivan
              -Ellsberg
              -Ehrlichman’s memory
                    -Halperin’s conversation with Ellsberg


*****************************************************************

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Privacy]
                                          -22-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. August-2012)

                                                            Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

[Duration:   5s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

*****************************************************************


     Watergate     

          -Richardson      

               -Possible withdrawal of nomination      

                     -John A. McCone        

               -Wiretaps       

                     -Mitchell’s role     

                     -Timing       

                           -NSC
                           -Ellsberg case
                     -Haig’s conversation with Richardson


***************************************************************** 


BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12 

[Statute]

[Duration: 15 s ] 


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12

*****************************************************************


     FBI Director
          -Ruckelshaus
                -Term in office
          -Former employee who worked for Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP] in
           1972
          -John Edward Kusic [?]
                -Cleveland
                                         -23-

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. August-2012)

                                                       Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

      -Qualifications       

      -Timing of appointment      

      -Sullivan       

      -Ruckelshaus        

      -Felt      

            -Leak to New York Times

                   -Ellsberg case    


Federal bureaucracy
     -Dangers
     -Political views
            -Support for President       

                  -Effect on transition      

     -State Department         

            -Problems       

                  -Haig’s opinion       

            -Kissinger and Connally        

            -Rogers       


President’s schedule
      -Kissinger

Watergate
     -Sullivan
           -Activities
                 -Ruckelshaus
           -Forthcoming testimony regarding wiretaps      

                 -Mardian       

                 -Ehrlichman        

                 -Destruction of tapes and memos     

                       -Kissinger        

                       -Timing        

     -Wiretaps       

           -India-Pakistan leak        

                 -Hunt       

                 -Ehrlichman        

                       -NSC
                                               -24-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                        Tape Subject Log 

                                        (rev. August-2012)

                                                                  Conversation No. 916-11 (cont’d)

                  -Lie detector tests during leak investigation


*****************************************************************

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13 

[Statute]

[Duration: 34 s ] 


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13

*****************************************************************


      Watergate      

           -Wiretaps       

                -Haig’s forthcoming conversation with Buzhardt 

                       -Ehrlichman
                -Motives
                -Contrasted with previous administrations
                -Lawrence M. Higby’s conversation with Tod R. Hullin
                -Haig’s conversation with Richardson
                       -Kissinger
                       -Mitchell
                       -Extent
                             -National security
                                   -Leaks
                       -Administration’s image
                -Sullivan’s forthcoming testimony
                       -National security

Haig left at 10:10 am.
                                           -25-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. August-2012)