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Start Date: 11-May-1973 12:53 PM

End Date: 11-May-1973 2:02 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Haig, Alexander M., Jr.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

916-019b.mp3

916-019a.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:53 pm to 2:02 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 916-019 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 916-19

Date: May 11, 1973
Time: 12:53 pm - 2:02 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Watergate    

          -Haldeman’s meeting with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. 

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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. August-2012)

                                                          Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

         -Alexander M. Haig, Jr. 

         -Wiretaps        

               -Haig’s role        

         -Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters 

               -Memoranda of conversations [Memcons]
                     -Meeting with Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman and Richard M. Helms
                     -Meetings with John W. Dean, III
         -Buzhardt
         -Wiretaps        

               -W. Matthew Byrne          

               -Morton Halperin         

                     -Effect on job
         -Walters
               -Dr. James R. Schlesinger’s orders
               -Henry E. Petersen
               -Meeting with L[ouis] Patrick Gray concerning Central Intelligence Agency
                [CIA] involvement
               -Meeting with Helms, Ehrlichman and Haldeman
                     -Helms’s conversation with Gray
                            -CIA involvement
               -Memcons
                     -Location
                     -Meeting among Helms, Ehrlichman, Haldeman and Dean
                            -Walters’s possible actions
         -Haldeman’s and Ehrlichman’s possible testimony
               -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.’s activities
               -Haldeman’s and Ehrlichman’s conversation with Walters
                     -Gray       

         -Walters       

               -Memcons         



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 

[National security]

[Duration: 7 s ] 

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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                  Tape Subject Log 

                                  (rev. August-2012)

                                                        Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)



    SOURCES


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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    Watergate       

         -Possible testimony        

               -Conversation with Gray         

         -Memcons         

               -Dean’s actions         

               -President’s conversation with Haig      

         -Haldeman’s conversation with Helms, Walters and Ehrlichman
               -Watergate burglars
               -Bay of Pigs
               -Hunt and G[eorge] Gordon Liddy
         -Possible testimony by Ehrlichman and Haldeman
         -Walters
               -Memcons
                      -Possible effects
         -Haldeman’s conversation with Helms, Walters and Ehrlichman
               -President’s order
               -Bay of Pigs
                      -Helms’s concerns
               -Walters’s possible conversation with Gray
         -Walters
               -Memcons
                      -Possible effect
                            -Ehrlichman      

         -Ehrlichman’s possible testimony        

         -Effects       

               -Pentagon Papers, plumbers, wiretapping of newsman
                      -Kissinger
                                            -64-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. August-2012)

                                                           Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

           -Possible release of information to Byrne
                 -Ellsberg
           -Buzhardt’s previous meeting with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                 -Wiretaps
                       -Ehrlichman, Henry A. Kissinger and Haldeman
                       -J. Edgar Hoover
           -Wiretaps        

                 -News article       

           -Ehrlichman’s possible testimony
                 -President’s orders regarding Walters and Gray
                 -Executive privilege
           -Dean
                 -Role
           -President’s orders regarding Walters and Helms
                 -Bay of Pigs
           -President’s meeting with Helms
           -Haldeman’s meeting with Ehrlichman, Helms and Walters
                 -Ehrlichman’s role
           -Facts compared to implications
           -Haldeman’s meeting with Helms, Walters and Ehrlichman
                 -Haldeman’s motives
                       -Dean
                       -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
                 -Walters’s memcon         

                 -Helms’s possible testimony       


The President talked with Haig at an unknown time between 12:53 pm and 1:20 pm.

[Conversation No. 916-19A]

[Begin telephone conversation]

     Memcons      

         -Request for delivery to Oval Office 


[End telephone conversation]
                                       -65-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. August-2012)

                                                       Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

Watergate
     -Previous telephone call with Haig
           -Memcons from Buzhardt
     -Presidential papers
           -National security
     -W. Mark Felt
           -Haig, Ruckelshaus
                 -New York Times

                       -Wiretap of Ellsberg       

                       -Time Magazine

                              -Stanton, Smith [?]    

     -William C. Sullivan        

           -Tom C. Huston          

     -President’s meeting with Haldeman 

           -Lincoln Room

     -Breadth of investigation          

           -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.         

           -Robert L. Vesco          

           -John N. Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans 

     -Stans
           -Mitchell        

     -Grand Jury       

     -Ehrlichman’s possible testimony         

     -Walters’s memcons          

     -Ehrlichman’s possible testimony         

           -Fake cover for CIA            

           -Gray       

     -Haldeman’s meeting with Ehrlichman, Helms and Walters 

           -Motives       

           -President’s order         

           -Ehrlichman’s role           

     -Daniel Ellsberg
     -Gen. Robert E. Cushman and Schlesinger 

           -Affidavit regarding call from Ehrlichman, July 7, 1972 

           -Meeting with Ehrlichman regarding July 7, 1972 telephone call 

           -Request for memo

           -Affidavit       

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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. August-2012)

                                                           Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

                       -Ehrlichman’s testimony
                 -Possible testimony regarding President and Haldeman
                 -Myths compared to facts
                 -Ervin Committee hearings

An unknown person talked with the President at 1:20 pm.

[Conversation No. 916-19B]

[Begin telephone conversation]

     [No discernable topic]

[End telephone conversation]

     Watergate      

          -Walters’s memos       

               -President’s viewing       


Haig entered at 1:20 pm.

     Watergate      

          -Walters’s memcons           

                -Meeting with Helms, Haldeman and Ehrlichman 

                      -Dean         

                -Dean        

          -President’s role       

                -Orders to Haldeman and Ehrlichman regarding Helms and Walters
                      -Motives
                      -President’s meeting with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                              -Ehrlichman’s office
                -President’s knowledge
                -Haldeman’s knowledge
          -Walters’s meetings         

                -Dean and Helms          

          -President’s orders to Haldeman and Ehrlichman 

                -CIA        

                                  -67-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. August-2012)

                                                  Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

            -Bay of Pigs
-President’s meeting with Helms
      -CIA involvement
-Walters’s meetings
      -Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Helms
            -Gray
      -Dean
            -Authorization          

      -Memcons         

      -Gray       

            -Telephone call from the President
-Gray
      -Testimony, May 10
      -Conversation with the President
            -President’s call concerning FBI’s prevention of San Francisco hijacking
-Walters’s memcons
      -Meeting with Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Helms 

            -Haldeman’s statements          

            -Gray       

                  -CIA        

                          -Bay of Pigs       

            -Hunt and Liddy           

                  -Pentagon Papers        

      -Meeting with Gray          

            -June 23, 1972 and July 6, 1972 

            -June 23, 1972          

                  -CIA
                  -Mexican bank connection
                  -Kenneth Dahlberg
                  -Gray’s possible meeting with Dean
-Motives behind Haldeman’s and Ehrlichman’s meeting with Helms and Walters
      -Hunt and Liddy
-Walters’s meetings with Gray
      -Dean
-Dean
      -Role
      -Contacts with CIA
                                   -68-

        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                            Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. August-2012)

                                                     Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

            -Haldeman’s knowledge          

            -Timing     

            -Hunt    

-Hunt
     -Involvement
-Walters
     -Memcons          

           -Executive privilege           

           -National security         

           -Location of copies          

           -Schlesinger, William E. Colby’s awareness           

           -Schlesinger’s order           

                  -Elliot L. Richardson
                          -Haig’s telephone call to Schlesinger     

           -Haldeman’s forthcoming meeting with Buzhardt             

           -Colby          

           -Richardson          

                  -Executive privilege
                          -Leonard Garment’s approach         

           -Dean         

           -Schlesinger, Colby           

           -Buzhardt’s possible call to Colby         

                  -National security, executive privilege
           -Watergate contrasted with memo in Ellsberg case
-Executive privilege
     -Haldeman’s lawyers’ view
     -Walters’s memcons
           -Richardson          

           -Walters’s possible testimony           

           -National security         

           -Individuals with knowledge           

           -Walters’s possible testimony           

-Walters’s memcons
                                           -69-


                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                    Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. August-2012)

                                                           Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

***************************************************************** 


BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 

[National security]

[Duration: 10 s ] 



    CHILE


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

*****************************************************************


    Watergate
         -Walter’s memcons          

               -Hunt and James W. McCord 

               -Buzhardt’s view        

         -Innuendo        

         -Buzhardt’s meeting with Walters 

         -Gray       

               -Grand Jury testimony regarding CIA
                     -President’s order
               -Walters’s memcon
                     -President’s conversation with Gray
               -Walters’s possible testimony      

         -Walters       

         -President’s role      

               -Conversation with Gray
               -Concern regarding CIA
               -Buzhardt’s view
               -Conversation withGray
               -Walters’s memcon, July 13, 1972
                     -Dean        

                     -Haldeman and Ehrlichman         

         -Walters       

                                            -70-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. August-2012)

                                                           Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

                 -Possible testimony
                 -Possible conversations
                       -Richardson, Colby, and Schlesinger
                             -Attitude toward the President
                                   -Dean
                                   -Haig’s conversation with Schlesinger
            -Helms
                 -Possible testimony
                 -Conversation with Haldeman
                 -Meeting concerning CIA involvement
                 -Conversation with the President concerning CIA involvement
            -White House reaction       

                 -CIA involvement         

                       -Cubans       

            -Walters
                 -Possible testimony
                 -Location
                 -Possible conversation with the President

Haig left at 1:55 pm.

      Watergate      

           -Ehrlichman        

           -Dean       

                 -Role      

           -Colby’s belief        

           -White House reaction        

                 -CIA
                       -Hunt
           -Gray
                 -Meeting with the President
           -Walters
                 -Value of possible testimony
           -Indictments of Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans
                 -Perjury       

           -White House response          

           -Goals of the President’s opponents 

                                              -71-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                       (rev. August-2012)

                                                              Conversation No. 916-19 (cont’d)

                 -President’s principles        

           -Ellsberg      

                 -New York Times

           -Ervin Committee hearings          

           -Haldeman’s forthcoming meeting with FBI 

                 -Walters’s memcons         

                 -James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa         

                 -President’s role in clemency         

                       -Recommended by Justice Department
                       -Dean’s possible statements
           -Subpoena to Haldeman          

                 -Federal Court, Illinois        

                 -Dorothy Hunt’s plane crash         


Haig talked with the President between 2:00 pm and 2:01 pm.

[Conversation No. 916-19C]

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 46-3]

[End telephone conversation]

     Watergate    

          -Haldeman’s mood         


The President and Haldeman left at 2:02 pm.