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Start Date: 14-May-1973 4:15 PM

End Date: 14-May-1973 4:36 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Rockefeller, Nelson A.Peterson, Russell W.Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.White House photographer[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

917-033.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Nelson A. Rockefeller, Russell W. Peterson, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., White House photographer, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:15 pm to 4:36 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 917-033 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 917-33

Date: May 14, 1973
Time: 4:15 pm - 4:36 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Nelson A. Rockefeller, Russell W. Peterson, and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
The White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting. The recording
began at an unknown time while the conversation was in progress.

     Watergate
          -President’s role
          -Possible effects on Republican Party [GOP]
                -Duration of issue’s prominence
                      -Compared with Rockefeller’s handling of Attica prison issue
          -Response for legal community
                -American Bar Association [ABA] [?]
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                    Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. June-2012)

                                                              Conversation No. 917-33 (cont’d)

     Rockefeller’s project [Commission on Critical Choices for Americans] 

          -Anne Armstrong and Tobin Armstrong 

                -King Ranch
          -Cole
          -Peterson’s role
          -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield and Carl B. Albert’s opinion
          -Rockefeller’s forthcoming meeting with Hugh Scott and Gerald R. Ford
          -Howard W. Cannon [?] and Clinton P. Anderson [?]
          -President’s conversation with Herbert [Last name unknown]
          -Need for bipartisanship
                -Meeting at Camp David

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:15 pm.

     Refreshment

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 4:36 pm.

     Rockefeller’s Commission on Critical Choices for Americans 

          -Need for bipartisanship       

          -Rockefeller’s meeting with press 

                -Appointments
          -Compared with support for Rockefeller’s Special Studies project, 1960s
                -Consensus
          -Compared with the President’s Electoral Reform Commission
                -Appointments
                      -Dean G. Acheson, Thomas E. Dewey, Dean Rusk, John J. McCloy, and
                        David Rockefeller
          -Possible appointments
                -Conservatives        

                      -Irving Kristol      

                      -Leo Cherne       

                -Liberals      

                      -John Gardner        

                      -Kristol’s view        

                            -Editor and manager
                            -Anne Armstrong
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. June-2012)

                                                     Conversation No. 917-33 (cont’d)

                         -Need for centrists        

     -Philosophy of man          

           -Bible        

     -Possible contributions           

           -Mao Tse-tung           

                  -Age
           -Chou En-lai
           -Jean-Francois Ravel, author of Neither Jesus nor Marx [Without Marx or
            Jesus] 

           -Andre Malraux            

                  -Association with Mao, world leaders            

           -Nature of man, improvement of quality of life 

           -Projected trends           

                  -Economic, military, political, social        

                  -1976, 1989            

                  -Oil, energy, gas, foreign exchange         

                         -Impact on US
     -Robert O. Anderson of Richfield Oil 

           -New Mexico           

           -Previous conversation with Rockefeller, Petersen 

                  -Initiative
                  -Energy
                         -Weight of automobile compared to cost of gasoline
                               -Impact on jobs
                                         -US dependence on automobile industry
           -Meeting with Arthur E. Johnson and President
           -Support for Rockefeller’s project
           -President’s assessment
                  -Possible appointment
           -[First name unknown] Bridges of Joint Congressional Committee on Atomic
            Energy
                  -America’s energy use
                         -Waste
                         -Projected foreign exchange gap, 1985
           -Spiro T. Agnew’s [?] interest

1974, 1976 election
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                              Tape Subject Log 

                                               (rev. June-2012)

                                                                              Conversation No. 917-33 (cont’d)

              -Agnew [?]         

                     -Rockefeller’s health      

              -Political life      

                     -Rockefeller’s divorce and remarriage                

                     -Resiliency      


       Watergate      

            -John N. Mitchell       

            -Robert L. Vesco       

            -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman 

            -Vesco       

                  -President’s nephew [Donald A. Nixon]


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       Watergate     

            -Vesco      

                 -Hiring of Donald A. Nixon 

                       -Presence in White House                   

            -Vesco      

                 -George Smathers       

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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                       (rev. June-2012)

                                                             Conversation No. 917-33 (cont’d)

                        -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo’s advice
            -Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans
            -Public’s view
            -Rockefeller’s view
            -President’s view
                  -Involvement
            -Rockefeller’s view       

                  -President’s role     

            -Leonid I. Brezhnev’s conversation with Henry A. Kissinger

      Rockefeller’s Commission on the Critical Choices for Americans

      Watergate
           -Press coverage
                 -President’s accomplishments in 1972
                 -Historical perspective
           -Popular concerns         

                 -Cole’s assessment      

                 -Inflation      

                 -Dwayne Andrews         

                        -Soybean uses      

           -Compared with Vietnam

           -Possible allegations       

           -Stopping leaks         

                 -National Security Council [NSC]
                 -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]

      Mansfield’s and Albert’s comments on the President 

           -Tone       


      Support for President

      Rockefeller’s Commission on the Critical Choices for Americans

Rockefeller et al. left at 4:36 pm.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                       (rev. June-2012)