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Start Date: 16-May-1973 3:02 PM

End Date: 16-May-1973 4:08 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

919-032b.mp3

919-032a.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr., Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:02 pm to 4:08 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 919-032 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 919-32

Date: May 16, 1973
Time: 3:02 pm - 4:08 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

       Watergate
             -John W. Dean, III’s documents 

                    -Huston Plan         

                    -Memoranda [memos]             

                            -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                            -J. Edgar Hoover
                            -Phraseology
                                    -Surreptitious entry
                                           -Huston
                                                    -Illegality
                                           -Hoover’s objections
                            -President’s approval
                    -Possible use by Ervin Committee
                    -Possible White House response
                            -Executive privilege
             -Executive privilege
                    -Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters’s memoranda of conversation [memcons]
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. September-2012)

                                                             Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)

                    -Possible court order        

             -Dean’s documents          

                    -Possible White House response
                           -National security
                           -Timing
                           -Patrick J. Buchanan
                           -William D. Ruckelshaus
                    -Implementation
                           -President’s meeting with Hoover
                           -Demonstrations
                                   -Intelligence reports to Buzhardt
                    -Purpose
                    -Content
                           -Electronic surveillance


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[National security]

[Duration: 25 s ] 



      TARGETS


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      Watergate
            -Dean’s documents
                   -Content
                          -Agents
                                 -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
                          -Surreptitious entry
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. September-2012)

                                                             Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)



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[National security]

[Duration: 3 s ] 



      TARGETS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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      Watergate       

            -Dean’s documents           

                   -Content         

                           -President’s approval
                                   -Haldeman’s memorandum
                                   -Absence of President’s signature
                   -Impeachment and resignation
                   -Possible Congressional action
                   -Possible White House response
                   -Effect on Watergate
            -Huston Plan         

                   -President’s memory            

                   -Ervin Committee            

                           -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.’s possible statements
                                   -Interest in civil liberties
                   -Possible White House response
                           -National mood
                                   -Cambodia
                                   -Kent State University
                   -Break-in at Daniel Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office
                                          -58-


                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                 (rev. September-2012)

                                                          Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)

                           -President’s role
                   -Duration of implementation
                           -Buzhardt’s conversation with Henry E. Petersen, May 16
                   -Robert C. Mardian
                           -Role
            -Executive privilege
                   -Walters’s memcons
                           -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] papers
                   -Attorney-client privilege
                   -Buzhardt’s conversation with Charles W. Colson, May 16
                           -Assistance to President
                           -John N. Mitchell’s possible testimony
                                   -President’s knowledge of Democratic National Committee
                                    [DNC] bugging
                                           -Refutation of Mitchell
                           -Colson’s possible statements
                                   -Effects
                                           -Dean
            -Huston Plan         

                   -Possible White House response           

                   -Relation to Watergate burglary         



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[National security]

[Duration: 24 s ] 



      SURVEILLANCE


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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. September-2012)

                                                   Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)


Watergate
      -Huston Plan         

             -Meeting in President’s office          

             -J. Edgar Hoover           

             -Restrictions         

                     -Defense Intelligence Agency [DIA] [?]
             -Implementation           

                     -Tom C. Huston                

                     -Haldeman            

             -Effect on Watergate burglary scandal 

             -Richard M. Helms              

             -Walters’s memcons               

      -Walters’s memcons
             -Dean
             -Accuracy of account of meeting with Ehrlichman, Haldeman, and
              Richard M. Helms
                     -Cubans
                             -Bay of Pigs
                     -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
      -Huston Plan
             -Helms, Hoover, Adm. Noel Gayler, and Donald V. Bennett
      -Huston’s memo to Haldeman
             -Phraseology
      -Huston Plan
             -Sol Lindenbaum’s referral to Dean
                     -Justice Department, Legal Counsel’s office
             -Implementation
                     -Army           

             -White House response                

             -Lindenbaum’s referral, March 3, 1972 

             -Dean’s possible plan              

      -Dean’s documents
             -Possessors
                     -John J. Sirica, Ervin, and District Attorney
                     -Possible return to White House
                             -Ervin
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. September-2012)

                                                             Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)

                                            -National Security Agency [NSA]
                    -Possible White House response
             -Huston Plan
                    -Relation to Watergate burglary
                            -Mitchell
                            -Hunt
                    -Product
                            -Distribution
                                    -Internal Security Division at Justice Department
                                            -Analysis group
                            -Mardian and FBI
             -President’s and Haig’s knowledge
                    -Interagency group


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[Duration: 3 s ] 



      TARGETS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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      Watergate
            -Huston Plan
                   -Surreptitious entry into private residence
                   -Possible White House response
                   -Hoover’s opposition
                                          -61-


                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                 (rev. September-2012)

                                                         Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 

[National security]

[Duration: 18 s ] 



      TARGETS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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      Watergate       

            -Huston Plan         

                   -Approval authority
                          -Mitchell
                          -Richard G. Kleindienst
                          -Delineation
                   -Buzhardt’s possible conversations
                          -Huston, Mardian, and William C. Sullivan
                   -Possible White House response
                          -Ervin
                                   -Dean’s testimony
                          -Haldeman
                          -Television [TV] appearance by President
                   -1969 wiretaps
                   -New York Times telephone call to Kissinger
                   -Possible White House response
                          -White Paper
                                   -Buchanan
                   -Ervin’s role
                   -Possible leak to press
                   -Possible White House response
                          -Burglary
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                 (rev. September-2012)

                                                         Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)

                                   -Lack of implementation
                   -Break-in of Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office
                          -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
                                   -President’s letter to Hoover
                                          -Plumbers
                   -Possible White House response
                          -Press handling of story
                                   -Compared to New York Times’s use of Pentagon Papers
                                   -Compared to Congressional reports
            -Dean’s documents
                   -Locations
                          -US Attorney office, Congress, bureaucracy
                   -Possible White House response
                          -Press handling of story
            -Huston Plan
                   -Hoover’s demurrers
                          -FBI role
                                   -Tapping
                                   -Breaking and entering
                   -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] role


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 

[National security]

[Duration: 38 s ] 



      TARGETS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                         Tape Subject Log 

                                       (rev. September-2012)

                                                                 Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)

       Watergate      

             -Dean’s documents         

                    -Buzhardt’s forthcoming conversations
                          -Haldeman
                          -Huston
                          -Sullivan
                          -Mardian

       President’s schedule       

              -George P. Shultz       

                      -Message problems [?]             


       Watergate       

             -Huston Plan          

                    -Justification          

                            -Ervin          

                                       -1968 riots
                                              -Washington, DC
                                              -Use of military to gather intelligence

Buzhardt left at 3:52 pm.

       Watergate
             -Dean’s documents
                    -Possible White House response
             -Executive privilege
                    -Application of executive privilege to Walters’s documents
             -Possible White House response 

                    -Dean’s documents          

                    -Krogh          

                    -Walters          

             -Walters
                    -Conversation with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
             -Possible White House response
             -Krogh’s operation
                    -Ehrlichman’s statement         

             -Huston Plan         

                                          -64-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                    Tape Subject Log 

                                  (rev. September-2012)

                                                           Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)

                    -Implementation
                             -Haig’s conversation with Huston
             -Possible White House response 

                    -Ervin’s release of material           

                    -White Paper              

                             -Compared to television [TV] announcement
                             -President’s role
                             -Temper of the times
             -Huston Plan          

                    -Ervin           

                    -Dean         

                    -Reasons             

                    -Hoover’s study               

                    -Impeachment                

             -Buzhardt         

             -President’s possible resignation           

             -Huston Plan          

                    -Relationship to Watergate burglary
                             -Walters and Helms conversation with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                                       -CIA involvement
             -Haig’s conversation with Haldeman
                    -Haldeman’s family
                    -Haldeman’s lawyers’ opinion of Buzhardt
                    -Haldeman’s meeting with Walters, Ehrlichman, and Helms
                             -Topics
                                       -Bay of Pigs
                                       -Hunt
                                       -Internal Security Committee operation
                             -Walters’s testimony
                                       -L[ouis] Patrick Gray
             -Haig’s forthcoming call to Haldeman 

                    -Ehrlichman             

                    -President’s support            

             -Walters’s testimony regarding meeting with Haldeman
                    -FBI investigation of CIA involvement

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 3:52 pm.
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. September-2012)

                                                             Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)


      President’s schedule       

             -George P. Shultz         


The unknown man left at an unknown time before 4:08 pm.

      Watergate
            -Possible White House response
                   -President’s role
            -Huston Plan
                   -Civil libertarians
                           -1972 election
                   -Implementation
            -President’s role
                   -Instructions to Krogh
                           -Hoover
                   -Instructions to Ehrlichman and Haldeman
                           -Conversation with Walters and Helms
            -Huston Plan
                   Hoover’s demurrer
            -Possible White House response
                   -Buzhardt’s view
                   -Walters
                   -Krogh
                   -Huston Plan
                           -Ervin
                           -Wiretaps
                           -Reasons for creation
                                    -Security
                                    -Law and order
            -Dean’s documents
                   -Leaks

      President’s schedule       

             -Shultz       


      Haig’s schedule
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. September-2012)

                                                             Conversation No. 919-32 (cont’d)

               -Dinner       

                      -Sequoia 

               -Forthcoming call to Haldeman 


Haig left at 4:08 pm.