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Start Date: 13-Jun-1973 9:22 AM

End Date: 13-Jun-1973 10:10 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Timmons, William E.Yates, Nellie L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

939-002.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., William E. Timmons, and Nellie L. Yates met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:22 am to 10:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 939-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 939-2

Date: June 13, 1973
Time: 9:22 am - 10:10 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler. Discontinuities appear in the original recording.

     Ronald L. Ziegler’s meeting
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. December-2011)

                                                          Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)

Press relations
      -Vietnam negotiations              

             -Joint communique                

             -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.                

      -National economy           

             -President’s address               

      -President’s efforts        

             -Vietnam negotiations                

                   -Messages              

                   -Nguyen Van Thieu                  

             -National economy                

             -Vietnam negotiations                

                   -Henry A. Kissinger                 

      -Watergate         

      -National economy           

             -Possible freeze           

                   -Prices      

      -Vietnam negotiations              

             -Saigon’s reaction             

      -Forthcoming Soviet Union summit 

      -Cambodia          

      -Joseph W. Alsop’s column, June 13, 1973 

             -Forthcoming Leonid I. Brezhnev visit, Watergate 

             -Agreement        

             -Trade        

      -Elliot L. Richardson           

             -Wire services         


Phil Donahue
      -Interview with Julie Nixon Eisenhower
            -White House response
                  -Correspondents
            -Insult

Watergate
     -Ervin Committee hearings
           -Maurice H. Stans
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. December-2011)

                                                            Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)

           -John W. Dean, III
                 -Immunity
                       -Archibald Cox’s possible appeal
                       -Judge John J. Sirica’s role
                 -Forthcoming Ervin Committee testimony
                       -Possible effects
                       -Transactional immunity
                 -Strategy
                       -Views of Haig and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.
                 -Forthcoming Ervin Committee testimony
                       -John D. Ehrlichman
                       -President
                              -Ehrlichman and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                       -White House response
                              -Timing
                              -Buzhardt
                       -William O. Bittman
                              -White House response
                              -Raymond K. Price
                 -Actions of Washington Post and New York Times
                 -Immunity
                 -White House response
                       -Buzhardt, Charles A. Wright, Leonard Garment
           -Ehrlichman’s letter to President
                 -Garment
                       -Leaks to press
                 -Elliot L. Richardson
                 -Garment
           -Garment

Haig entered at 9:34 am.

     Watergate
          -Garment
               -Conversations with Ziegler and Haig
               -Defense of President with press
               -Ehrlichman letter
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. December-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)

                -Contacts with Bob Woodward and Seymour M. Hirsh
                     -Haig’s opinion

     Congressional relations       

          -Vietnam negotiations         

                -Communique           

                      -William E. Timmons’s activities     

                             -Staff meeting     

                      -Haig
                             -Chowder and Marching Society
                             -Society of Statesmen [SOS]
                      -Cambodia           

                      -Timmons’s schedule         

          -Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings        

                -Bi-partisan Congressional leaders meeting
                      -Mike J. (“Mike”) Mansfield, Hugh Scott
                      -Gerald R. Ford, Ted Stevens
                      -President’s role
                      -Guest list
                             -Timmons [?]
                -Importance
                      -Kissinger [?]
                      -Prisoners of War [POWs]
          -Chowder and Marching Society
                -Watergate
          -Watergate
                -Bella Abzug’s speech, June 12, 1973
          -Haig’s meeting with Chowder and Marching Society
                -Watergate
                -Laird
                -National economy
                -President’s activities

Timmons entered at 9:38 am.

     Congressional relations    

          -Vietnam negotiations       

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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. December-2011)

                                                                 Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)

                 -Wire services       

                 -Congressional relations           

                 -Mansfield, Scott         

                 -Senate Foreign Relations Committee             

                       -Timmons’s telephone calls
                 -Briefing schedule          

                       -President’s role         

                       -Kissinger       

                       -Guest list       

                             -Congress compared with White House
                       -President’s economic controls speech
                       -Scott and Ford’s views
                             -Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings
                                   -Scott, Mansfield, Ford, Carl Albert
                                   -Press
                                   -Timing
                                   -President’s approval
                                   -Communique
                                            -President’s briefing on Soviet Union summit, June 13,
                                              1973
                                                   -Kissinger’s role
                                                   -Wilbur Mill, Wright Patman, William Proxmire

Timmons left at 9:41 am.

     Personal appointments
          -William Scranton        

                -Conversation with Haig       

                -Forthcoming conversation with Haig          

                -Effect of possible appointment    

          -Timing of announcements
                -Press coverage           

                      -Scranton         

                      -Leonid I. Brezhnev       

                      -Energy         

                      -Harlow        

                      -Scranton         

                                       -7-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. December-2011)

                                                       Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)

                      -President’s trip to Florida
                 -Brezhnev
                      -San Clemente
                      -President’s conversation with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                            -Andrei Gromyko
                      -Photo opportunity
                            -“Spirit of Casa Pacifica”
                      -Spirit of Camp David, Casa Pacifica, Glassboro, and San
                       Clemente

Watergate
     -Dean       

           -President’s conversation with Ronald Ziegler 

           -Forthcoming Ervin Committee Testimony          

     -Press      

           -Treatment of Whittaker Chambers          

                 -Alger Hiss case        

           -Treatment of Dean        

                 -Joseph W. Alsop’s column

                 -Need for White House response        

                       -Haig’s opinion           

                       -Buzhardt       

           -Spiro Agnew’s speech           

                 -Columns          

                 -Garment’s contacts           

                       -New York Times, Washington Post

     -Dean       

           -Immunity       

                 -White House response             

                 -Peter Lisagor’s possible column

                 -Ziegler’s efforts       

           -Discreditation       

                 -Importance of timing           

     -Henry (“Scoop”) Jackson’s statement concerning Brezhnev’s visit 

           -Congressional response           

     -Dean       

           -Immunity       

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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. December-2011)

                                                         Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)

           -Forthcoming Ervin Committee testimony        

                 -Prosecutors’ evidence-gathering   

                 -Buzhardt        

           -Expectations       

           -Cross-examination         

           -Fred D. Thompson          

                 -Buzhardt        

                 -Howard H. Baker, Jr.            

                 -Edward J. Gurney            

                 -Daniel K. Inouye [?]          

                 -Herman E. Talmadge              

     -Gurney
           -Speeches in Florida
                 -News coverage
                       -New York Times, Washington Post, Associated Press [AP]
                 -Support for President
     -President’s role
           -Need for speeches by supporters
                 -Content       

                       -Dean        

                       -Haldeman          

                       -Ehrlichman          

                 -Agnew       

                 -Congressmen           

     -Eugene J. McCarthy          

           -Statement concerning President’s tenure    


Press relations
      -Timing of announcements         

             -Kissinger        

             -Harlow       

             -Energy statement       

                   -Scranton’s appointment       

                   -Delay        

             -Scranton       

                   -Florida        

             -President’s forthcoming speech on the economy 

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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                        Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. December-2011)

                                                             Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)


      National economy
           -President’s forthcoming speech
                 -Timing
                 -Ziegler’s forthcoming conversation with Timmons
           -President’s schedule
                 -Cabinet, Bi-partisan Congressional leaders
                       -George P. Shultz

Ziegler left at 9:59 am.

      National economy
           -President’s forthcoming speech         

                 -Preparation      

                 -President’s appearance       


      Chowder and Marching Society 

          -Support for President        

          -Meeting, June 13, 1973 

                -SOS        

                -Attendees        

          -Haig’s talk
                -White House relations with Congress
                -White House relations with Cabinet
                -President’s activities
                       -Economy, energy, Southeast Asia
                -Cambodia
                       -Stability
                -Forthcoming Brezhnev visit
                       -Significance

Nellie L. Yates entered at an unknown time after 9:59 am.

      Telegram to Kissinger 

           -Congratulations       

           -Scowcroft       

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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. December-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)

Yates left at an unknown time before 10:10 am.

     Chowder and Marching Society 

         -Haig’s previous visits      

               -Complaints by attendees          

         -Attitude, June 13, 1973 

         -Cambodia vote        

         -Peter H. Dominick         


     Dominick
         -Qualities
         -Timmons
         -Treatment by Committee to Re-Elect the President [CRP]


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     Dominick
         -Treatment by Committee to Re-Elect the President [CRP]
               -Reelection
                     -Forthcoming conversation with Haig
                           -Colorado
                     -Harlow
               -”Georgetown set”
               -Possible conversation with Harlow

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     Chowder and Marching Society 

         -Timmons       

         -George H. W. Bush 


     Watergate       

          -Dean          

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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. December-2011)

                                                             Conversation No. 939-2 (cont’d)

                  -Forthcoming Ervin Committee testimony
                  -White House response
                        -President’s activities
                              -Energy, Economy, White House staff, Southeast Asia, Brezhnev
                  -Evidence
            -Ervin Committee hearings
                  -Witness schedule
                        -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Dean         

                  -Agnew’s speeches          

                  -Barry M. Goldwater, Jr.’s possible speech 

                  -Possible speeches by Congressmen        

                  -Forthcoming Brezhnev visit        

                        -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
                        -Inouye’s views
                        -Ziegler
                        -Possible speech or press story
                              -Content

      Haig’s schedule

      Scranton      

           -Florida      


Haig left at 10:10 am.