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Start Date: 14-Jun-1973 11:29 AM

End Date: 14-Jun-1973 12:11 PM

Participants:

Scranton, William W.[Unknown person(s)]Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

940-010.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 14, 1973, William W. Scranton, unknown person(s), President Richard M. Nixon, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:29 am and 12:11 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 940-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 940-10

Date: June 14, 1973
Time: Unknown between 11:29 am and 12:11 pm
Location: Oval Office

William W. Scranton met with an unknown man.
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                                                                Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)


       Seating arrangements

The President and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. entered at 11:31 am.

       Greetings        

              -Grip         


       Scranton
              -Possible role with administration 

                     -Haig’s conversation with Scranton           

                     -Delay         

                             -Conversations
                             -Mary Lowe Chamberlain
                     -Scranton’s background
                             -Politics
                             -Respect by governors, press
                             -Conservatives
                     -Energy
                             -Workload
                             -Gasoline
                             -Importance in US, Europe, Japan
                             -Henry A. Kissinger
                             -Middle East
                                      -Scranton’s previous visit
                                      -Even-handedness
                                              -Jews
                             -Libyan confiscation of Bunker Hunt holdings, June 13, 1973
                             -Requirements for position
                                      -Interested parties
                                              -Oilmen
                                      -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                                              -Compared to Gen. George S. Patton, Jr., and Gen.
                                               Omar N. Bradley
                             -Conflict
                                      -George P. Shultz, William E. Simon
                                      -Rogers C. B. Morton
                                      -National Security Council [NSC]
                                      -Defense Department
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                                                          Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

                                         -Elk Hills            

                                 -Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]              

                          -Possible gas deal         

                                 -Leonid I. Brezhnev               

                                         -Costs        

                                                 -Export-import bank
                                 -Politics
                                 -Japan
                  -Anti-trust laws
                          -American flag carriers            

                                 -John B. Connally               

                                 -Pan American             

                                 -Competitions with France, Britain         

                          -Oil companies, oilmen
                                 -Soviet Union, Libyan actions
                                 -Coordination
                                 -Peter M. Flannigan
                                 -Unknown, Standard Oil of New Jersey and Texaco official
                  -Energy
                          -US needs
                                 -Coordination           

                          -Alaska pipeline         

                          -Middle East         

                                 -Scranton’s possible dealings with leaders
                                         -Compared to William P. Rogers
                                         -[Shah of Iran] Mohammed Reza Pahlavi
                                                 -Forthcoming visit to US
                                 -Gulf States
                                         -Rogers’s view               

                                 -Libya, Iraq, Algeria              

                                 -Saudi Arabia         

                                         -Malik Faisal ibn Abd al-Aziz al-Saud [Faisal, King
                                           of Saudi Arabia]


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National security]
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                                                             Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

[Durations:   2s ]


       JEWS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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       Scranton        

              -Possible role with administration 

                     -Energy         

                             -Middle East         

                                    -Saudi Arabia
                                            -[Middle East peace negotiations]
                                            -[Israel]
                                                    -US policy
                                            -Richard M. Helms
                                                    -Iran
                                    -Nuclear power
                                            -Opposition
                                                    -Youth, environmentalists
                                            -Importance
                                            -Safety
                                                    -Edison Plant, San Clemente
                                            -President’s forthcoming conversations with
                                             Brezhnev
                                                    -Peaceful uses of nuclear energy
                                    -Coal
                                            -US reserves
                                                    -Liquefaction
                                                           -Shale
                                    -Solar power
                                    -Supply
                                    -Demand
                                            -Rationing of gasoline
                                            -Automobile fuel economy
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                              Tape Subject Log
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                                                      Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

                                             -Lincoln Continental
                             -Foreign policy
                             -Morton, Simon, Charles J. DiBona, John B. Connally
                             -Connally
                             -Group
                             -“Energy Czar”
                             -Middle East
                             -Venezuela
                                    -Elections
                                    -Confiscation
                             -Alaska pipeline
                             -Energy needs
                             -Supply
                                    -Congo
                             -Coordination
                                    -Scranton’s background as governor of
                                     Pennsylvania
                             -Requirements
                                    -Workload
                                    -Morton
                                             -Plan
                                             -Assistants
                                             -Interior Department
                             -Elk Hills, California [Naval Reserve]
                             -Offshore drilling
                             -Taxes, anti-trust, foreign policy
                             -Scranton’s recent conversation with Haig

President’s foreign policy accomplishments
       -Scranton’s view
               -Letters       

       -Future         

       -People’s Republic of China [PRC], Soviet Union 

               -US relations with       

       -Vietnam

       -PRC, Soviet Union           

       -President’s conversations with Scranton in 1967 and 1968 

               -New York          

               -US relations with West Europe 

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                                                                 Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

                             -Lyndon B. Johnson

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:31 am.

       Folder          

                -Letter from Brezhnev        


Bull left at an unknown time before 12:11 pm.

       President’s foreign policy accomplishments 

              -Soviet Union         

              -Vietnam

              -PRC          

                      -President’s conversations with Edward W. Brooke
              -PRC
                      -Relations with US
                              -Friendship
                              -Population
                              -Nuclear power
                              -Future

       Scranton
              -Possible role with administration
                     -Energy
                             -Administration of program
                                     -Integration
                                             -Scranton’s conversation with President
              -President’s Advisory Commission on Disarmament negotiations
                     -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
              -Forthcoming Brezhnev visit
                     -SALT
                             -Principles
                             -[David] Kenneth Rush
                             -U. Alexis Johnson

       Scranton        

              -Possible role with administration 

                     -Energy         

                             -Possible trip to Europe        

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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                                        Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

                      -Middle East
                            -Libya
                            -US energy needs
                                     -Compared to Europe, Japan
                            -1956 Suez War
                            -NSC staff
                                     Kissinger, Rogers
                            -DiBona
                                     -Experience
                                            -Nuclear power
                                            -Foreign policy
                                                   -Anti-trust
                      -Georges J. R. Pompidou, Edward R. G. Heath, Willy Brandt, and
                       Tanaka’s meetings with President

Japan-Soviet Union relations
       -Tanaka’s possible trip to Soviet Union
              -Cancellation
                     -Kurile Islands         

                              -Speech         

                              -US return        

                              -Soviet return        

                              -Population         

                              -Volcanoes        


Scranton
       -Possible role with administration
              -Energy
                      -Consumers’ knowledge
                      -President’s address to nation addressing price control measures,
                       June 13, 1973
                             -Gasoline prices
                                     -Supply
                      -Gasoline supplies
                             -Refineries
                      -Research and Development [R & D]
                             -Earlier effort
                                     -Inadequacy
                             -June 16, 1973 announcement
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                     Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

      -June 16, 1973 announcement
             -Content         

                     -Rationing             

                     -Volunteerism                   

                     -Bureaucracy                   

      -R & D        

             -Congressional relations                  

             -Japan, Soviet Union                   

                     -Compared to US                     

      -Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]                        

             -Dixie Lee Ray             

      -Nuclear power          

             -Laurance S. Rockefeller
                     -Environmentalism
                     -Consolidated Edison [Con Ed] plant in New York
                     -Jacob K. Javits
      -Reserves
             -Con Ed
                     -New York
                     -New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New England,
                      Maryland 

      -Independent petroleum distributors                  

             -Leadership meeting, June 13, 1973                

                     -Senate, House of Representatives
             -Majors
             -Trucks
                     -Farmers             

             -Simon         

             -James T. Lynn               

      -Scranton        

             -Integrity         

             -Oil of New Jersey               

             -Bunker Hunt             

             -Credibility         

             -Conflict resolution               

                     -Eisenhower                  

             -Eisenhower            

      -Requirements for position                

             -Morton, Simon, Ray                     

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              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                                            Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

                                    -Political skills
                                    -State and Defense Departments
                                    -Mary Scranton

President’s schedule
       -Scranton, Laird, Haig, Bryce N. Harlow
       -Scranton’s recent conversation with Harlow
       -Kissinger

Kissinger
       -Schedule        

              -“Extracurricular activities”     

              -Meetings         

                     -Learning           

       -Vietnam negotiations          

              -Communique            

                     -Improvement           

              -President’s messages to Nguyen Van Thieu 

                     -Tone         

                     -Timing           

                     -Congressional aid       

                             -South Vietnam

Israel
         -US commitments
                 -Arab states            

         -American Jews          

         -Kissinger        

                 -Background               

                 -Arabs’ view              

                 -Pressure         

         -President’s view           

                 -Commitments                

                 -Pressure         

         -Egyptians          

                 -Brezhnev            

         -Interim settlement            

                 -General principles               

         -Elections        

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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                                       Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

               -Compared to US
       -American Jews
               -Jewish emigration from Soviet Union
                       -Jackson-Vanik amendment
                                         -Effect
                                                 -Ukrainians
               -Meeting with President concerning Jackson-Vanik amendment, April 19,
                1973
                       -Most-Favored Nation [MFN] trade status
                       -Arms limitation
               -Anti-Semitism
       -Security guarantees          

               -Soviet Union           

               -Military aid         

                       -Jets       

       -Future        

               -President’s conversations with Golda Meir 

                       -Military conflict with Arab States
                               -Timing
                               -Negotiations
                               -Soviet Union
                                         -Aid to Arabs
                                                 -Munitions pilots
                               -US

Shah of Iran
       -Forthcoming trip to US
       -Toughness
       -Views of President
              -Scranton’s conversation with Shah
       -Accomplishments           

              -Persian Gulf         

              -Land reform

              -President’s trips to Tehran in 1953, 1967 

              -Gross National Product [GNP]           

                     -Growth          

                              -Japan        


Scranton
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. March-2011)

                                                       Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

       -Possible role with administration
              -Energy          

                      -Service to US        

                      -Importance to President        

                      -Challenge         

                      -Executive Office Building [EOB]           

                              -Oil
                              -Farmers        

                      -Strategy        

                      -Staffing       

                      -Liaison with Cabinet         

                      -President’s role        

                              -Foreign policy
                              -Oil wells
                                     -Depth and cost
                                             -President’s experience as lawyer

President’s schedule
       -Brezhnev

Scranton
       -Possible role with administration
              -Notification
                      -Timing

Letter from Brezhnev
        -Correspondence
               -Tone         

        -San Clemente          

        -[Scranton’s reading]        

               -Soviets’ sense of humor       

        -President’s meetings with Brezhnev 

               -Scranton’s service in Eisenhower administration 


-Scranton
       -Possible role with administration
              -Mary Scranton’s view
                      -Possible telephone call from President
              -Supercabinet
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. March-2011)

                                                              Conversation No. 940-10 (cont’d)

                             -Connally
                             -Kissinger, Laird, President, Haig
                      -Scranton’s forthcoming conversation with Mrs. Scranton
                      -Thelma C. (“Pat”). Nixon’s and President’s view of Scrantons
                      -Schedule
                             -Rose Mary Woods
                                     -Brezhnev dinner

Scranton and Haig left at 12:11 pm.