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Start Date: 12-Jul-1973 2:56 PM

End Date: 12-Jul-1973 3:25 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Scheel, WalterKissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

949-005.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Walter Scheel, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:56 pm to 3:25 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 949-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 949-5

Date: July 12, 1973
Time: 2:56 pm - 3:25 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Walter Scheel and Henry A. Kissinger. This recording began at an
unknown time while the conversation was in progress

       US-Europe relations        

             -Scheel        

                    -Conversation with Michel Jobert
                            -France
                            -Ability for initiatives
                    -Declaration
                            -Kissinger’s briefing of President
             -Year of Europe
                    -President’s conversations with Leonid I. Brezhnev, Jobert
                            -Imposition          

                    -Compared to Marshall Plan           

                    -Joint venture         

                            -Germany, Great Britain, France
             -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] Council
                    -Declaration
                            -Problem
             -President’s personal relations with Europe’s leaders
                    -Denmark, Norway
             -Year of Europe
                    -Germany’s position
                            -Compared to US
                    -President’s travel
                            -Timing
                    -Conference
                            -Publicity
                            -France, Germany’s role
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                  Tape Subject Log
                 (rev. October-2012)

                                          Conversation No. 949-5 (cont’d)

        -Brussels         

                 -NATO Council                

                         -Foreign defense ministers
                 -European Economic Community [EEC]
                 -France’s participation
        -Summit
                 -Paris
                 -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] participation
                         -All-European summit
                         -President’s conversation with Brezhnev
                                    -Joint communique
                                    -Camp David
        -Phases
                 -Head of State compared to ministerial level
        -Summit
                 -USSR participation            

                         -Concessions           

                         -Timing            

        -Intergovernmental communication
                 -Formal communication
                         -State Department cables
                         -Impact on France
                         -USSR’s positioning
                 -William P. Rogers [?]

                 -Kissinger           

                 -Jobert         

                         -Georges J. R. Pompidou
                 -Sir Burke Trend
                         -Great Britain
        -Results
                 -God, motherhood, country pronouncements
                         -President’s view
                 -Summit
 -Paper        

        -Distribution          

        -Scheel’s draft            

        -France, Great Britain’s knowledge            

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    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                        (rev. October-2012)

                                                  Conversation No. 949-5 (cont’d)

-Significance of US-USSR relations
        -Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
        -Importance of international meetings
        -Willy Brandt
        -[James] Harold Wilson, Edward R. G. Heath
        -Pompidou, Gen. Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
        -Mariano Rumor
        -Heath’s concern about conference
               -Letter to President          

        -President’s statement to NATO Council 

               -Josepf Luns          

        -President’s travels to Europe          

        -Compared to People’s Republic of China [PRC] 

        -Compared to NATO              

               -Brezhnev
-Atlantic compared to European cooperation
        -Germany          

               -Public statement           

               -Detente          

               -NATO            

                        -Scheel’s statement in Helsinki
                        -Impact of alliance’s strength
                                -US-USSR summits
                        -Scheel’s statement in Helsinki
                                -Warsaw Pact
                                -Declaration
                                         -Compared to communique
                                         -Compared to Atlantic Charter, Four
                                          Freedoms
                                         -Fate of Western civilization
                                         -Scheel’s draft
                                                 -Philosophy
                                                 -Humane Society
                                         -Pragmatism
                                         -Theory
                                                 -Youth
                                         -Pragmatism compared to idealism
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                  Tape Subject Log
                 (rev. October-2012)

                                            Conversation No. 949-5 (cont’d)

                                       -USSR          

         -Youth           

         -Communism

         -US compared to Germany                 

                 -Impatience
                 -John Dewey
                           -Reconstructionism [?], Pragmatism [?]
         -USSR          

                 -Role and utilization of idealism

                 -Youth            

         -Charles Malik’s views                

                 -Lebanon [?]                

 -Idealistic language          

         -Substantive content                

         -Cynicism           

                 -Press          

         -Camp David              

                 -President            

         -Brandt, Pompidou                

 -Pragmatism compared to idealism

         -Balance of payments, inflation              

         -Wheat         

                 -USSR
         -President’s view              

                 -Philosophy               

                 -Economic pragmatism

                 -Chance of US success              

         -Freedom and diversity
                 -John Foster Dulles             

         -Houses, automobiles, roads, air conditioning         

         -East Germany and West Germany                 

         -Individual freedom

                 -USSR
                           -Foreign and domestic policies
                                     -Impact of detente
                           -Social, cultural exchange
                           -Scheel’s speech
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                         Tape Subject Log 

                                        (rev. October-2012)

                                                              Conversation No. 949-5 (cont’d)

                -Differing political systems
                        -Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe [CSCE]
                        -Competition
                                -Nikita S. Kruschev’s 1959 statement
                                -President’s speeches
                                        -London Guidhall speech
                                        -1968 acceptance speech
                        -Idealism
                -[Year of Europe]
                        -Great Britain, France’s support
                                -President’s interaction with Pompidou
                -France
                        -Idealism
                                -French Revolution          

                        -Cooperation with Germany             

                        -Nuclear policy         


       Brandt          

                -President’s well wishes       


       Year of Europe 

              -Declaration     

                     -Metaphor             


Scheel and Kissinger left at 3:25 pm.