Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 001-074 Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1971 at 9:36 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Lincoln, George A. (Gen.) Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/001-074 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] though general lincoln yes yes mr president i was asking going to ask about the texas disaster thing did we get something done on that or are we going to do something yes sir uh i talked to the secretary of agriculture this morning about this yeah and uh uh he is having a meeting right now i think of his people i had a long meeting yesterday but principally with his people right and uh [0:24] I believe that he should make an agricultural disaster declaration immediately, which will make available their emergency grain program and will also make available their FHA loans. [0:40] And I also believe that he should press along on what these people are already doing, which [0:47] use their extension services in Texas and probably in Colorado to start, be a catalytic agent to get hay, which they say is in Colorado, moving to Texas. [1:03] I have on my desk to think about what I'm going to send you. [1:10] I question very seriously that we should make full disaster declaration. [1:16] A full disaster declaration triggers everything in that law. [1:21] It triggers unemployment compensation. [1:24] And the estimate is that we get 65,000 applications. [1:29] I have that from the Department of Labor. [1:31] They wouldn't be able to distinguish whether they were due to the droughts or not. [1:36] We get all these workers down there in the south, the migratory workers who they want to migrate north. [1:44] And [1:46] So I have to determine. [1:49] Let me ask you to do this. [1:51] I noticed the governor had to do it. [1:53] Why don't you have Hardin give the governor a call? [1:55] And I think the main thing is swiftness. [1:57] So if they don't build it up, he could give the governor a call and tell him where. [2:01] See what I mean? [2:02] I will. [2:02] Yes, sir. [2:03] And get that done. [2:05] I'll get that done right away. [2:08] So that we get that much. [2:09] I'll say we were doing this emergency, so forth and so on. [2:12] And then the other thing, I noticed you used the small business type of thing. [2:16] I just want to be sure that Texas is there really squealing down there. [2:19] Yes, sir. [2:20] Well, with an FHA declaration, that immediately triggers the SBA. [2:27] It does. [2:28] Yes, sir. [2:28] Well, if you could, would you see that Hardin or you or somebody get to the governor on it? [2:35] And the other one that I would inform would be... [2:38] uh, the, uh, tower. [2:40] Yes, sir. [2:41] We're a tower. [2:41] No, we're in touch from him. [2:43] Well, what I mean is so that he can, I tell tower first so that, and then, and then let the governor know. [2:49] See what I mean? [2:50] Yes, sir. [2:50] All right. [2:51] It might be better as a matter of fact, just to, just to give it, just to give it the proper buildup is to have tell tower and let him pass the word back. [2:59] See what I mean? [3:00] Let's, let's let it, let's make a little politics out of this. [3:02] Tell John tower. [3:05] Yes, sir. [3:05] And have Hardin give Tower a call and tell him what's available, and then Tower can... [3:11] can make the release from here, because it's mainly a political problem. [3:15] It's a political problem. [3:16] It's a disaster, too. [3:16] Would you do that, please? [3:17] Yes, sir. [3:18] I should make clear, sir, that our estimate of the situation is that this is not yet a disaster. [3:23] Right, I understand that. [3:24] But it might be very tough in three or four weeks if they don't get havens. [3:29] Right, and if they don't get some rain. [3:30] In any event, you tell, if you could have Hardin call Tower, so that Tower could then say what we're going to do, right? [3:37] I will raise that, sir. [3:39] I'll get that done right away.