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Conversation 001-123

TapeTape 1StartSaturday, April 17, 1971 at 10:45 AMEndSaturday, April 17, 1971 at 10:52 AMTape start time04:02:35Tape end time04:06:31ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  White House operator;  Hoover, J. Edgar;  Kissinger, Henry A.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On April 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, J. Edgar Hoover, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 10:45 am to 10:52 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 001-123 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 1-123

Date: April 17, 1971
Time: 10:45 am - 10:52 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President conferred with Stephen B. Bull.

     Henry A. Kissinger

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 10:45 am and
10:49 am.

[See Conversation No. 481-5A]

     Call to Herbert G. Klein

     Call from J. Edgar Hoover

The President talked with Hoover between 10:49 am and 10:52 am.

[Conversation No. 1-123A]

[See also Conversation No. 481-5B]

     President's interview with newspaper editors
           -President's remarks on Hoover
                 -Hoover's reaction

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     Hale Boggs
          -Criticism of President
          -Hoover's report to H. R. Haldeman, April 16, 1971
                -Oil interest surveillance of Hale Boggs

     Edmund S. Muskie
         -Hoover’s opinion

     Earth Day
          -Rennie Davis
               -Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI] coverage

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     Earth Day
          -Rennie Davis

     President's defense of Hoover
           -Kissinger

Kissinger talked with Hoover at 10:52 am.

[Conversation No. 1-123B]

[See also Conversation No. 481-5C]

     President's interview with newspaper editors
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hello?
Hello, Edgar, how are you?
Oh, well, what the hell, I...
I always stick by my friends, you know that?
Yeah.
Well, you know, they're all badgering and so forth, but, you know, they gave me a set-up question when this fellow said, in view of the increasing attacks that Mr. Hoover is coming under, do you think he will now
resign.
And I said, no, it's going to have exactly the opposite effect.
I said, he hasn't even discussed resignation with me.
And I said, certainly when he's being under vicious and malicious attack, a man that's given 50 years of services, and he certainly has not gone to, you know, I thought that gave it a good chance.
Because it's true.
I mean, hell, I mean, I, none of us are going, I won't even, frankly, if they'd ever put it to me that I just say, I wouldn't even consider it if I were in his place.
Wonderful of you, Mr. President.
And you did magnificent on all the other questions.
You weren't there, were you?
No, I listened to it on the radio.
Oh, you heard it, yeah.
On radio, and it came over excessively.
And you sounded more relaxed than you do on TV.
Yeah, well, it was more editors, so I could be a little bit... A few little jabs of humor that was very good, too.
Well, the main thing is to, as I say, let your friends support you in this and that.
All right, well, that's fine.
I'm just going to say Henry Kissinger just walked in, and he disagrees.
He says I shouldn't have defended you.
No, here he is.
I'll let you say hello to him.
Thank you so much.
Hello?
What's up, Ted?
Mr. Hoover?
Well, you know you have many admirers in this building.
Well, I thought the president was magnificent last night.
I just can't find words to express.
Well, anyone who's done youth service to the country should not be exposed to this sort of malicious attack.
Oh, but you've been, and I am also.
They're just trying to bait anybody who's a member of the establishment.
I think that the statement of the president last night and all the answers he made to some of them were loaded questions, were magnificent.
Well, that's what I thought, and I thought it came out very, very well.
I thought it was excellent.
And it's awful nice to have you tell me what you just said.
Well, it's a privilege to be able to work with you.
Thank you so much.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
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