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Conversation 001-138

TapeTape 1StartSaturday, April 17, 1971 at 4:41 PMEndSaturday, April 17, 1971 at 4:42 PMTape start time04:18:57Tape end time04:20:31ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Buchanan, Patrick J.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On April 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Patrick J. Buchanan talked on the telephone from 4:41 pm to 4:42 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 001-138 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 1-138

Date: April 17, 1971
Time: 4:41 pm - 4:42 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Patrick J. Buchanan.

     President's interview with newspaper editors
           -People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
                 -Reaction by "doves"
                 -Emmett Dedmon, Chicago Sun Times
                 -Article in Foreign Affairs
                 -Recognition in United Nations [UN]
                       -Taiwan
                 -Liberal press
                 -Vietnam
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The other thing I was going to mention is how really amusing it is that these doves are so thrown off balance for this China thing.
They're really in a tither.
Oh, sure.
A little old blip like that, and then they're all saying, they really don't know what to do.
That's one they can't build on a handle, isn't it?
That's right, that's right.
Well, they were ecstatic over the initiative, and of course, they just, I mean, very euphoric about the whole thing, and at the same time, they're going to have to sort of give you credit for doing it.
Presents them with a bit of a problem.
Yeah, because nobody else did it.
That's right, that's right.
And also, it was good that Bedman asked the question, because it allowed me to point out that I had said it two years ago, said it in an editorial conference, referred to it in an article in Foreign Affairs, that it was not something it just, and at the same time, of course, it's,
I, as you know, dodged the issue of recognition or the UN, which is very important.
Say, we're not going to go too fast here, boys.
We've got other friends there, too.
We don't want to let down Taiwan too hard.
We won't.
I think what really is interesting on the China thing is the way that it forces the liberal press people to get off of Vietnam for a while, doesn't it?
Mm-hmm.
It does.
We wiped it right off the front pages, you know.
It should go well.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll see what they do next week with it.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes, sir.
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