{"conversationCode":"002-010","tapeNumber":2,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-002-010","startDateTime":"1971-04-20T20:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-20T20:55:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Apr-1971","startTime":"3:54 PM","endDate":"20-Apr-1971","endTime":"3:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hughes, James D. (\"Don\");","description":"On April 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and James D. (\"Don\") Hughes talked on the telephone from 3:54 pm to 3:55 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 002-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 2-10\n\nDate: April 20, 1971\nTime: 3:54 pm - 3:55 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with General James D. (“Don”) Hughes.\n\n[See Conversation No. 483-17D]\n\n     Texas drought\n          -Plane for trip\n               -Jetstar\n               -\"970\" plane\n               -Ken [Surname unknown]\n               -”970\"\n                      -Air Force One\n                      -Capacity\n               -Clifford M. Hardin","filename":["002-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:10:24","tapeEnd":"00:11:12","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hughes, James D. (\"Don\")"],"prevCode":"002-009","nextCode":"002-011","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.52,"text":"General Hughes, sir."},{"start":1.74,"end":2.96,"text":"Yes, sir, Mr. President."},{"start":3.12,"end":5.73,"text":"Could you lay on a bigger plane for this trip to Texas?"},{"start":5.83,"end":7.56,"text":"I may have to add two or three people to it."},{"start":7.58,"end":8.84,"text":"Have you got one available?"},{"start":9.58,"end":34.68,"text":"bigger than uh bigger than a jet star oh yes sir uh what we plan to do is to was to take your backup plane yeah uh you know 970 which is just yeah roughly the same size as yours going to carry more people you're going to take 970 i thought we'd back up because of the i figured there'd be a pretty big uh well going my point is then they will go in 970 that was our plan when i talked to uh oh fine to ken i think that that way they're both presidentially painted and you know it's"},{"start":34.66,"end":38.15,"text":"Well, have 970, which will look like Air Force One."},{"start":38.16,"end":38.51,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":38.53,"end":38.87,"text":"That's correct."},{"start":38.89,"end":39.13,"text":"All right."},{"start":39.15,"end":42.47,"text":"Take them at 970, and then I'll tell the secretary to add anybody he wants."},{"start":42.71,"end":43.26,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":43.4,"end":44.78,"text":"We're up to about 60 people."},{"start":44.8,"end":45.22,"text":"Great."},{"start":45.32,"end":45.66,"text":"Fine."},{"start":45.96,"end":46.96,"text":"Fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with General James D. Hughes to arrange a larger aircraft for an upcoming trip to Texas, specifically for Secretary of Agriculture Clifford M. Hardin and his delegation. Hughes confirmed that they would utilize the backup aircraft, designated '970,' which shares the same presidential paint scheme and capacity as Air Force One. Nixon authorized this change to accommodate an expanded party of approximately 60 people.","topics":["Texas drought","Air Force One","Clifford M. Hardin","presidential travel","logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:08:21.535Z"},"topicSlugs":["texas-drought","air-force-one","clifford-m-hardin","presidential-travel","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":47,"audioFiles":[{"file":"002-010.mp3","bytes":1129742,"durationSec":47,"bitrate":192294,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:20.570Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/002-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/002-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/2/conversation-002-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}