{"conversationCode":"002-031","tapeNumber":2,"conversationNumber":31,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-002-031","startDateTime":"1971-04-23T01:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-23T01:25:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Apr-1971","startTime":"8:23 PM","endDate":"22-Apr-1971","endTime":"8:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.;","description":"On April 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally talked on the telephone from 8:23 pm to 8:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 002-031 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 2-31\n\nDate: April 22, 1971\nTime: 8:23 pm - 8:25 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nJohn B. Connally talked with the President.\n\n     Prime rate increase\n          -Chase National Bank\n          -Connally's statement\n          -Charles E. Walker\n                                                                                               Back to Top\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n            -Western banks\n                 -Ernest C. Arbuckle, Wells Fargo Bank\n                 -Leslie C. Peacock, Crocker-Citizens National Bank\n                 -Peacock's possible statement","filename":["002-031.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:06:10","tapeEnd":"01:07:48","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Connally, John B."],"prevCode":"002-030","nextCode":"002-032","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.13,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.55,"end":3.96,"text":"Mr. President, I have Secretary Connolly asking to speak with you."},{"start":4,"end":4.44,"text":"Fine."},{"start":4.92,"end":6.75,"text":"All right."},{"start":6.76,"end":7.29,"text":"There you are."},{"start":7.31,"end":7.63,"text":"Hello."},{"start":8.03,"end":9.53,"text":"Mr. President, I'm sorry to bother you."},{"start":9.61,"end":10.35,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":10.37,"end":15.04,"text":"I'm sure you've been told, but the Chase raised their prime rate this afternoon."},{"start":15.56,"end":16,"text":"Raised it?"},{"start":16.18,"end":16.52,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":16.57,"end":18.29,"text":"From five and a quarter to five and a half."},{"start":18.81,"end":20.13,"text":"And I put out a statement."},{"start":20.75,"end":49.73,"text":"right on the heels of it the minute i heard it i just said i'm extremely disappointed good that i knew of nothing uh i didn't i have no knowledge that the loan demand had reached such proportions that an increase in the prime rate was justified good good good good and uh in addition i've got charlie walker calling on the west coast he's talked to arbuckle of wells fargo he's talking to peacock of crocker citizens good and there's a good chance that peacock"},{"start":50.35,"end":53,"text":"who is under Solomon out there, you know."},{"start":53.42,"end":53.7,"text":"Yes."},{"start":54.06,"end":55.65,"text":"That's Crocker Citizens."},{"start":55.66,"end":58.79,"text":"We'll issue a statement saying we're not about to raise our prime rate."},{"start":58.85,"end":65.25,"text":"We're tired of just following like sheep the eastern banking institutions."},{"start":65.65,"end":65.75,"text":"Good."},{"start":65.77,"end":67.21,"text":"And we're prepared to loan to"},{"start":67.61,"end":95.8,"text":"uh money at five and a quarter percent as long as we got a dime left we're not about to raise our prime good good i don't know whether they'll do it we're trying to promote this type of uh well your your statement though is good the fact that we're against this sort of thing is just good to say it well i just thought i ought to i ought to test because i didn't know when you might uh that's all right get caught on the phone or something but don't worry i'm for i'm for it all the way all right sorry about you it's all right thank you all right"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Treasury Secretary John B. Connally updated President Nixon on his immediate public criticism of Chase National Bank for raising its prime rate from 5.25% to 5.5%. Connally informed the President that he tasked Charles E. Walker with pressuring Western banks to resist following this rate hike. President Nixon expressed full support for Connally’s strategy to discourage further increases by major financial institutions.","topics":["Prime rate","Banking policy","John B. Connally","Chase National Bank","Monetary policy","Economic regulation"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:10:23.737Z"},"topicSlugs":["prime-rate","banking-policy","john-b-connally","chase-national-bank","monetary-policy","economic-regulation"],"audioDurationSec":98,"audioFiles":[{"file":"002-031.mp3","bytes":1042889,"durationSec":97.57,"bitrate":85512,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:20.569Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:32.961Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/002-031.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/002-031","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/2/conversation-002-031","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}