{"conversationCode":"002-033","tapeNumber":2,"conversationNumber":33,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-002-033","startDateTime":"1971-04-23T15:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-23T15:38:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Apr-1971","startTime":"10:35 AM","endDate":"23-Apr-1971","endTime":"10:38 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mulcahy, John A. (\"Jack\");","description":"On April 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John A. (\"Jack\") Mulcahy talked on the telephone from 10:35 am to 10:38 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 002-033 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 2-33\n\nDate: April 23, 1971\nTime: 10:35 am - 10:38 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with John A. Mulcahy.\n\n[See Conversation No. 487-4]\n\n                                                                                               Back to Top\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 12/20/2017.\n01m 22s segment cleared for release. 54s remain closed as 002-033-w002.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[002-033-w002]\n[Duration: 1m 22s]\n\n     Greetings\n\n     John A. Mulcahy’s health\n          -Ear Drum\n          -George Washington\n          -Prognosis for recovery\n\n     Weather\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal Returnable]\n[002-033-w002]\n[Duration: 54s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n     Tricia Nixon Cox’s wedding\n           -Invitation\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from\nDecember 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.\nPowell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this\ntranscript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n[End of transcript]","filename":["002-033.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:07:59","tapeEnd":"01:10:52","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Mulcahy, John A. (\"Jack\")"],"prevCode":"002-032","nextCode":"002-034","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":3.32,"text":"Mr. Jack Mulcahy, sir."},{"start":4.1,"end":4.3,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":140.31,"end":140.87,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":141.11,"end":141.81,"text":"Yes, indeed."},{"start":141.84,"end":144.34,"text":"In the meantime, by golly, you take care, you know, we need you."},{"start":144.5,"end":145.76,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":145.9,"end":152.79,"text":"And just incidentally, what do you think of these veterans that are demonstrating up here?"},{"start":153.31,"end":155.04,"text":"It's unbelievable."},{"start":155.06,"end":159.18,"text":"I suppose you always have a very, very small minority."},{"start":159.52,"end":161.27,"text":"Well, most of them there don't feel that way."},{"start":161.53,"end":165.39,"text":"I think you're handling it properly, if I may say so, just..."},{"start":165.79,"end":167.28,"text":"it'll run its course."},{"start":167.3,"end":167.54,"text":"Sure."},{"start":167.88,"end":169.73,"text":"Well, we'll just continue to do the right thing."},{"start":170.33,"end":170.85,"text":"Good."},{"start":170.87,"end":171.64,"text":"Well, God bless you."},{"start":171.74,"end":173.84,"text":"Thank you, Jack, and good luck."},{"start":173.93,"end":174.65,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":174.79,"end":177.14,"text":"Bye-bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John A. \"Jack\" Mulcahy spoke briefly to exchange personal pleasantries regarding Mulcahy’s health and the upcoming wedding of Tricia Nixon Cox. The conversation shifted to political matters, with Mulcahy expressing support for the President’s handling of ongoing anti-war veteran demonstrations in Washington. Nixon reaffirmed his commitment to maintaining his current policy stance, dismissing the protesters as a small minority whose activities would eventually run their course.","topics":["Anti-war protests","Tricia Nixon Cox wedding","John A. Mulcahy","Public opinion","Vietnam veterans"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:10:34.957Z"},"topicSlugs":["anti-war-protests","tricia-nixon-cox-wedding","john-a-mulcahy","public-opinion","vietnam-veterans"],"audioDurationSec":177,"audioFiles":[{"file":"002-033.mp3","bytes":1406116,"durationSec":177.37,"bitrate":63419,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:20.569Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:32.961Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/002-033.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/002-033","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/2/conversation-002-033","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}