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Conversation 002-045

TapeTape 2StartMonday, April 26, 1971 at 8:11 PMEndMonday, April 26, 1971 at 8:12 PMTape start time01:32:27Tape end time01:34:12ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Buckley, James L.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On April 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and James L. Buckley talked on the telephone from 8:11 pm to 8:12 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 002-045 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 2-45

Date: April 26, 1971
Time: 8:11 pm - 8:12 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with James L. Buckley.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

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Hello?
Senator Buckley, sir.
There you are.
Hello?
Mr. President?
I don't want to bother you at your dinner, but I just wanted to say that I thought you made exactly the right ruling when you were presiding over the Senate today.
Well, thank you very much.
I think you had to do it.
I mean, these people were apparently really out of control, huh?
They were out to make a spectacle, and I don't know what you can do except draw the line.
Right.
And did they finally clear the galleries?
What happened?
They cleared two of the galleries and then readmitted the people who were the troublemakers.
That's all right.
So I think the point was made.
Then there was another group, which I had witnessed this, who started sort of a whimpering whining, not the yelling amenities.
Yeah.
And there came a point where you had to draw the line on that one.
Sure.
And then they went out and, of course, made their noises, crying and wailing.
Yeah.
But then that was it.
Good.
Good.
Well...
Just stay firm on it.
We'll try to avoid a confrontation, but on the other hand, you can't allow them to disrupt the business of the Senate.
No, and a lot of them parking in the halls outside of my office and other people, and I don't know why you would draw the line there.
Yeah.
But it's an experience.
Yeah, well, you know, it's never dull, you know.
Once you run for the Senate from New York, you really catch a lot of hell, don't you?
More than I could realize.
Okay, fine.
Well, have a good time tonight.
Thank you very much.
Bye.
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