Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 002-055
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1971 at 7:33 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/002-055

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[0:00] Never more than an hour and a half late.
[0:24] Things like that.
[0:30] Yeah, yeah.
[0:51] The other thing is that, uh...
[0:52] I would, uh...
[0:52] I just told Schultz today that they... they should rush this in two minutes.
[0:54] I just thought it would be a hell of a train, and it would inspire him.
[0:55] It would probably inspire the whole goddamn cabin crew.
[0:56] You know, really.
[0:57] He should have seen it.
[0:57] That's how to wait for it today.
[0:58] Sorry, I'm also pretty upset about that too.
[1:18] I'm upset.
[1:18] You can't charge me unless they're trying to collide.
[1:19] I know.
[1:19] They can't charge me, so we're going to wait.
[1:20] I said postpone the wait.
[1:21] How can we be in time?
[1:21] I'm not going to make a big decision like this in an absolute way.
[1:23] So it's done.
[1:23] It's done.
[1:23] It's 8 o'clock in the morning.
[1:24] I'll consent to graduate today.
[1:24] I don't have time for that.
[1:25] Oh Christ!
[1:51] That's terrible!
[1:52] So, Al was terribly disturbed, and he asked, and I told him to go ahead and do it, if he could send a cable from East to Rochester, something to do at Apple, because there'd be no further reception in Vietnam.
[2:15] So, the kind of initiative on the trip, on the trip, and there's four reasons that you would explain on the trip.
[2:18] Huh.
[2:18] Yeah, so I told him to go ahead and do it.
[2:19] Good.
[2:19] Well now wait a minute.
[2:31] Why don't you call him on the phone?
[2:38] That's my phone.
[2:39] Call him on the phone.
[2:39] They always worry about that.
[2:40] Oh, screw the worry.
[2:55] There isn't anything to worry about.
[2:57] The goddamn plane, nobody's going to do anything.
[3:00] You know that.
[3:00] That's just bullshit.
[3:01] What the hell is he going to say, though, that there's a dividend for us?
[3:02] What's the name?
[3:03] Well, God, you don't say that.
[3:03] Of course there is.
[3:04] That's what we privately think.
[3:04] But you don't say that.
[3:05] That irritates both the Chinese and the Russians.
[3:06] Both.
[3:08] I don't want the thing I don't want to do with a thing that troubles your wires.
[3:13] It makes me tell him what we're doing when he gets back.
[3:16] He may not be ready.
[3:23] Well, we just want him to get back.
[3:26] You know, these days, with all the things that we're developing here, it's hard to get him back.
[3:28] It's hard to get him back.
[3:38] Why don't you just tell him?
[3:56] Why don't you just call him and tell him what you've done?
[3:58] You've got problems with senators.
[3:58] Senators are a hell of a lot of people.
[3:59] You've got to be cool with them.
[4:00] Of course, I tell you what, I'll fool with Carr in the press conference the last meeting.
[4:01] I'm going to say it's not helpful to say that.
[4:02] You know what I mean?
[4:03] I'm going to lay it out.
[4:03] Maybe that's the best way.
[4:04] If I send you a wire...
[4:05] No, but I'm going to cover tomorrow night.
[4:31] No, but after I say I didn't.
[4:31] I'm not sure you ought to elevate us with wire.
[4:32] I don't want to let him in on this game yet, you know.
[4:41] I don't want to get...
[5:05] I haven't done any reading.
[5:06] I haven't stopped it.
[5:06] It doesn't mean anything.
[5:07] It doesn't mean anything.
[5:07] Just let me hit it in the front.
[5:08] It'll be out.
[5:08] I don't care.
[5:08] Just let me hit it in the front.
[5:09] I don't care.
[5:14] and I will comment on these things.
[5:41] You know what I mean?
[5:41] I'll hit it.
[5:42] Word.
[5:42] You know what I mean?
[5:42] I'll hit it.
[5:42] What the hell are you gonna do?
[5:44] Don't.
[6:00] I'd call him.
[6:01] Okay.
[6:01] Okay.
[6:01] Okay.
[6:01] Okay.
[6:01] Okay.
[6:01] Okay.
[6:11] Maybe, maybe you're calling him and he'll start to pave the way.
[6:35] What do you think?
[6:36] He's probably going down there.
[6:36] I don't think he's going down.
[6:37] But don't do it by a wire.
[6:37] That's the way to do it.
[6:38] Okay.
[6:38] He's calling.
[6:38] I don't want to discuss it on the phone.
[6:39] I want to do it on our property.
[6:40] We shouldn't go beyond what the president said and said.
[6:41] Answer to the editor.
[6:44] Huh?
[7:05] Alright, how's that?
[7:05] What are you really trying to do?
[7:06] The problem is, it escalates.
[7:06] If it does one thing, it gets right ahead of us.
[7:07] I have no more questions.
[7:08] I appreciate that.
[7:08] Okay.
[7:19] You might have to pull off.
[7:49] Yeah, way better than Dr. Patel, right?
[7:57] Well, I don't think so.
[7:57] You can't come by Dr. Patel.
[7:58] Dr. Patel, huh?
[7:58] No.
[8:24] Yeah, and if I tell him, he doesn't do it.
[8:44] Okay, fine.
[8:44] I noticed also that the star plate takes the rest of somebody on the bomb.
[8:47] Some girl, she's on a hippie pad or something.
[9:08] So, it's a registered material, right?
[9:08] Oh, okay.
[9:09] Another dog's got a tail.
[9:09] Yep.
[9:09] They must have one.
[9:10] Yep.
[9:10] Also, another story, it's a kitty.
[9:10] Bad stuff.
[9:11] Narcotic stuff.
[9:11] Yeah, I noticed that.
[9:24] I didn't see Victoria, but I hope so.
[9:34] Well, that's the layback.
[9:34] That's the stuff to get around.
[9:35] Yep, yep.
[9:35] Are our guys making any decisions so far?
[9:36] Both of them.
[9:36] Seem to be a little surprised.
[9:37] Hold on.
[9:37] Hold on.
[9:37] Hold on.
[9:37] Hold on.
[9:38] Hold on.
[9:49] That's good.
[9:52] Okay.