Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 2 › Conversation 002-057

Nixon phone call with Haldeman on Robert F. Ellsworth and George A. Lincoln

Wednesday, April 28, 1971 · 7:48 PM–7:50 PM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation002-057 on Tape 2 (tape position 02:10:01–02:11:53)StartWednesday, April 28, 1971 at 7:48 PMEndWednesday, April 28, 1971 at 7:50 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 002-057 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discussed potential personnel adjustments involving Robert F. Ellsworth and General George A. Lincoln. The President proposed a job exchange between the two men, seeking Haldeman's assessment of the viability of such a move. Haldeman was instructed to further evaluate the logistics and feasibility of this administrative reassignment.

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What are Ellsworth's plans?
He doesn't, he wasn't planning to get
Well, I have an idea.
Why not have him and the General change places?
You think it'll hold them?
Apologies.
Now that it's the chance to sober down from the real job, and fight like hell, it wouldn't be hard.
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
You feel it too, don't you?
I'll tell you what to do.
Just run it by Bob.

NARA Description

On April 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 7:48 pm to 7:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 002-057 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 2-57

Date: April 28, 1971
Time: 7:48 pm - 7:50 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Robert F. Ellsworth
         -James B. Pearson
         -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
         -Career
         -Possible exchange of positions with Gen. George A. Lincoln

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       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 002-057, April 28, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/002-057 (accessed October 12, 2026).