{"conversationCode":"002-085","tapeNumber":2,"conversationNumber":85,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-002-085","startDateTime":"1971-05-05T14:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-05T14:30:00.000Z","startDate":"5-May-1971","startTime":"10:15 AM","endDate":"5-May-1971","endTime":"10:30 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On May 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:15 am and 10:30 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 002-085 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 2-85\n\nDate: May 5, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 10:15 am and 10:27 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 491-17]\n\n     Call to Melvin R. Laird\n\n","filename":["002-085.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:09:39","tapeEnd":"03:09:45","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"002-084","nextCode":"002-086","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.71,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":1.73,"end":3.14,"text":"Secretary Laird, please."},{"start":3.16,"end":4.37,"text":"Yes, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs the White House operator to place a telephone call to Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird. The brief exchange serves as an administrative bridge to facilitate direct communication between the President and the Secretary. No substantive policy discussions occur, as the conversation focuses exclusively on establishing the connection.","topics":["Melvin R. Laird","Department of Defense","White House operations","Presidential communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:15:15.432Z"},"topicSlugs":["melvin-r-laird","department-of-defense","white-house-operations","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":5,"audioFiles":[{"file":"002-085.mp3","bytes":54467,"durationSec":4.61,"bitrate":94560,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:20.570Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:32.968Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/002-085.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/002-085","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/002/conversation-002-085","catalogNaId":417188131,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417188131","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}