{"conversationCode":"002-100","tapeNumber":2,"conversationNumber":100,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-002-100","startDateTime":"1971-05-05T23:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-06T13:10:00.000Z","startDate":"5-May-1971","startTime":"7:54 PM","endDate":"6-May-1971","endTime":"9:10 AM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone on an unknown date, sometime between 7:54 pm on May 5, 1971 and 9:10 am on May 6, 1971. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 002-100 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 2-100\n\nDate: Unknown between May 5 and May 6, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 7:54 pm, May 5 and 9:10 am, May 6, 1971\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n     Public reports regarding demonstrators\n          -Colson's conversation with unknown man\n          -Administration's handling\n          -Locations\n                -Chicago\n                -New England\n\n     Hardhats\n          -Henry A. Kissinger\n                -Conversation with person on Nelson A. Rockefeller's staff\n          -Peter J. Brennan\n\n                                                                                               Back to Top\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n            -Support for President\n            -Proposed march on Wall Street\n            -Colson's possible conversation with Brennan\n            -Possible actions\n            -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]\n\n     Demonstrations\n         -Victory flag\n\n     Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy\n         -Forthcoming congressional hearings\n               -Demonstrations\n\n     Demonstrations\n         -Congressmen\n               -Robert J. Dole\n               -Press coverage\n         -Press coverage\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from\nDecember 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.\nPowell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this\ntranscript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[End of transcript]\n\n     Brennan","filename":["002-100.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:34:23","tapeEnd":"03:42:14","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"002-099","nextCode":"002-101","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":21.31,"text":"Well, you've had a rather interesting day, huh?"},{"start":21.33,"end":21.63,"text":"Certainly have."},{"start":21.65,"end":22.09,"text":"It's been a good week."},{"start":22.11,"end":22.33,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":22.35,"end":22.91,"text":"Anything of interest to you?"},{"start":22.93,"end":24.67,"text":"I think the whole display, you know, you get a lot of thought, a lot of public support."},{"start":52.38,"end":76.41,"text":"Henry had a call from a friend of his who worked with Rockefeller."},{"start":76.43,"end":77.55,"text":"He talked to somebody in Breneslaw, Secretary Breneslaw."},{"start":77.57,"end":78.47,"text":"He pointed out that there was a great deal of"},{"start":79.17,"end":97.1,"text":"I think you might give him a call, see if there's anything there."},{"start":102.14,"end":121.51,"text":"The question is whether he can mobilize them."},{"start":121.53,"end":121.75,"text":"Sure, yeah."},{"start":121.77,"end":122.73,"text":"Or you might talk to him and see what he thinks."},{"start":141.16,"end":166.84,"text":"And also the teardown to the aircraft flight."},{"start":166.87,"end":166.97,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":166.99,"end":167.41,"text":"Couldn't let them go."},{"start":167.43,"end":167.65,"text":"Yeah, good."},{"start":167.67,"end":168.23,"text":"Don't let them get arrested."},{"start":169.62,"end":180.87,"text":"uh teddy seems to have moved into the scene again"},{"start":203.85,"end":209.25,"text":"You know, he moves out of this, he's, I think, choosing the wrong side at the wrong time."},{"start":209.27,"end":214.97,"text":"So that's the, that's the, the making of it, on and off."},{"start":246.56,"end":273.03,"text":"We've got to stick with them."},{"start":273.05,"end":274.07,"text":"The Congress and the Senators should speak up, too."},{"start":274.09,"end":274.31,"text":"Oh, I know."},{"start":274.33,"end":274.97,"text":"Oh, they don't want to run that."},{"start":274.99,"end":275.41,"text":"But that's all right."},{"start":275.43,"end":275.77,"text":"Just keep trying."},{"start":281.2,"end":302.01,"text":"I don't know who's doing it."},{"start":309.25,"end":321.67,"text":"Good."},{"start":321.69,"end":321.79,"text":"Good."},{"start":321.81,"end":323.81,"text":"Also, you're right to demonstrate the piece of rod, but not to the right to break the piece of bone."},{"start":323.83,"end":324.42,"text":"That didn't pick up the line."},{"start":324.44,"end":324.68,"text":"That's good."},{"start":354.04,"end":371.05,"text":"Good."},{"start":380.16,"end":400.33,"text":"Henry said that where he was in California, there was just a strong reaction against the demonstrators for what they were doing."},{"start":400.35,"end":400.85,"text":"It was very, very strong."},{"start":400.87,"end":401.61,"text":"It was a marvelous force to be alive."},{"start":429.01,"end":455.6,"text":"Well, okay."},{"start":455.62,"end":456.06,"text":"Well, just keep it up."},{"start":456.08,"end":456.9,"text":"See if Brennan, he may not want to do it."},{"start":456.92,"end":457.12,"text":"It's fine."},{"start":457.14,"end":457.76,"text":"But if he does, it's okay, too."},{"start":457.78,"end":457.84,"text":"Oh."},{"start":457.86,"end":458.9,"text":"Well, maybe for that reason, he might want to do it."},{"start":462.86,"end":474.79,"text":"We'll push for it."},{"start":474.81,"end":474.91,"text":"Sure."},{"start":474.93,"end":475.03,"text":"Okay."},{"start":475.05,"end":475.27,"text":"Okay, fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss strategies to leverage public support for the administration in the wake of anti-war demonstrations. They specifically examine the role of Peter J. Brennan and the potential for a 'hardhat' labor mobilization to counter protesters, including a proposed march on Wall Street. Additionally, the pair discusses the political implications of Edward M. Kennedy's involvement in recent demonstrations and the perceived need for congressional allies to speak out in support of the administration.","topics":["Anti-war protests","Peter J. Brennan","Hardhats","Labor unions","Edward M. 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