{"conversationCode":"003-004","tapeNumber":3,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-003-004","startDateTime":"1971-05-11T23:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-11T23:16:00.000Z","startDate":"11-May-1971","startTime":"7:15 PM","endDate":"11-May-1971","endTime":"7:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.;","description":"On May 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally talked on the telephone from 7:15 pm to 7:16 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 003-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 003-004\n\nDate: May 11, 1971\nTime: 7:15 pm - 7:16 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nJohn B. Connally talked with the President.\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n     President's schedule\n          -Meeting with President\n                 -Time\n                 -Connally's location\n                 -Time and place\n                 -Subject","filename":["003-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:02:23","tapeEnd":"00:03:27","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Connally, John B."],"prevCode":"003-003","nextCode":"003-005","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":4.66,"text":"Hello."},{"start":6.78,"end":20.52,"text":"Secretary of State."},{"start":20.54,"end":20.82,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":20.84,"end":20.96,"text":"Hello."},{"start":20.98,"end":21.04,"text":"Hi."},{"start":21.06,"end":21.4,"text":"How are you, sir?"},{"start":21.42,"end":21.64,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":21.66,"end":22.14,"text":"I'm sorry to bother you."},{"start":22.16,"end":22.36,"text":"All right."},{"start":22.38,"end":23.26,"text":"I need to talk to you for about ten minutes."},{"start":23.28,"end":24.81,"text":"Uh, either this afternoon, either fairly soon, or early in the morning."},{"start":24.83,"end":25.11,"text":"We've got a..."},{"start":25.13,"end":26.15,"text":"I don't mind telling you what it is over the phone."},{"start":26.17,"end":27.35,"text":"I'd rather come to it in person, but I'll do it either way."},{"start":27.37,"end":27.91,"text":"Oh, well, that's all right."},{"start":27.93,"end":28.03,"text":"Uh..."},{"start":28.43,"end":42.02,"text":"Where are you now?"},{"start":42.04,"end":42.64,"text":"Why don't you come over to the"},{"start":42.83,"end":58.08,"text":"I'll just come in with the diplomatic ambulance, and they'll bring you up to the scene."},{"start":58.09,"end":59.3,"text":"And I'll just, it won't take, I think, I don't care."},{"start":59.32,"end":60.3,"text":"And I don't mind telling you, so you can be safe."},{"start":60.32,"end":61.46,"text":"It's on the parole matter, and I think it's a tough call."},{"start":61.48,"end":61.86,"text":"You just come over."},{"start":61.88,"end":62.08,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Secretary of the Treasury John B. Connally arranged an urgent, in-person meeting to discuss a sensitive parole decision. Connally initiated the contact, noting the complexity of the matter and his preference for a direct, private briefing. The two agreed to meet shortly at the White House to deliberate on the specific case.","topics":["John B. Connally","Parole","Executive decision-making","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:20:57.656Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-b-connally","parole","executive-decision-making","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":63,"audioFiles":[{"file":"003-004.mp3","bytes":1081344,"durationSec":63.34,"bitrate":136585,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:20.571Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:33.590Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/003-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/003-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/3/conversation-003-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}