Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 003-014
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1971 at 3:33 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ford, Gerald R.; [Unknown person(s)]
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/003-014

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[0:00] Mr. President, Congressman Gerald Ford.
[0:02] Hello.
[0:03] Hello.
[0:04] Mr. President.
[0:05] Jerry, I understand it's pretty close, huh?
[0:08] We won in a recorded teller vote, 201 to 195.
[0:12] Yeah.
[0:13] And it's going to be just as close on the next vote.
[0:19] You aren't going to lose any, though, out of your...
[0:21] I think we're going to win.
[0:22] You're not going to lose any of your 201.
[0:23] The point is, I suppose, that the others are just frantic, huh?
[0:26] Yes.
[0:27] But don't you have, I hope, a couple that you've saved out, haven't you?
[0:31] Yes.
[0:32] Have you?
[0:32] Yep.
[0:33] Good.
[0:34] Save them out, save them out.
[0:36] If we do win, I've got about ten fellows that a letter from you would be a real... Well, let me say that as soon as the vote occurs, you call me.
[0:48] Okay.
[0:48] What time will it occur?
[0:49] Oh, in another hour.
[0:52] An hour?
[0:52] We'll be through with it in another, because we have to finish the bill, and then we have a...
[0:57] motion to recommit, and then we'll have a separate vote on the amendment recorded vote.
[1:06] So it'll be an hour before we get the result.
[1:10] That's what I meant to say.
[1:13] As soon as you get the result, let me know, will you?
[1:15] I sure will, Mr. President.
[1:17] Fine, fine, good luck.
[1:17] You got some guys that stood up, believe me.
[1:20] Did you?
[1:20] You're damn right.
[1:21] Yeah, have you got any, are you sure you've got two or three in your pocket?
[1:24] Yep.
[1:25] That will shift?
[1:25] At least they've told us that.
[1:27] Well, by God, make them do it.
[1:28] We will.
[1:29] Tell them everything counts now they're this close, and let's win it.
[1:32] All right.
[1:32] Bye, Jerry.
[1:33] Okay, thank you for coming.