{"conversationCode":"003-026","tapeNumber":3,"conversationNumber":26,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-003-026","startDateTime":"1971-05-12T21:29:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-12T21:31:00.000Z","startDate":"12-May-1971","startTime":"5:29 PM","endDate":"12-May-1971","endTime":"5:31 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Arends, Leslie C.;","description":"On May 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Leslie C. Arends talked on the telephone from 5:29 pm to 5:31 pm. 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Collier\n                        -Pairs\n            -President's response","filename":["003-026.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:28:11","tapeEnd":"00:29:18","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Arends, Leslie C."],"prevCode":"003-025","nextCode":"003-027","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":0.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":0.51,"end":2.31,"text":"Congressman Ahrens is on the line, sir."},{"start":2.59,"end":2.69,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.17,"end":3.4,"text":"Hello."},{"start":3.71,"end":3.83,"text":"Hello."},{"start":4.2,"end":5.58,"text":"Well, you won a close one."},{"start":5.8,"end":6.76,"text":"Oh, Mr. President."},{"start":6.78,"end":12.32,"text":"Yeah, I just wanted to tell you how pleased I was, and I've been trying to reach you earlier, but you were running around."},{"start":12.48,"end":13.59,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":13.61,"end":14.93,"text":"You've been out of Burning Tree?"},{"start":15.01,"end":16.99,"text":"No, no."},{"start":17.01,"end":17.65,"text":"Not with that."},{"start":17.67,"end":18.23,"text":"Not with that."},{"start":18.37,"end":19.67,"text":"Well, that was a wonderful job."},{"start":19.75,"end":20.41,"text":"Wonderful job."},{"start":20.43,"end":21.25,"text":"Real hard work."},{"start":21.55,"end":22.42,"text":"Yeah, it's great."},{"start":22.52,"end":30,"text":"Now, you know, just get good conferees, because we'll force that Senate, you know, even if we lose it there, you can't recede completely, can you?"},{"start":29.98,"end":30.62,"text":"No, no."},{"start":30.79,"end":31.21,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":31.41,"end":31.81,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":31.83,"end":32.09,"text":"Never."},{"start":32.39,"end":33.01,"text":"No, that's right."},{"start":33.05,"end":34.65,"text":"No, we kind of got them on a little bit."},{"start":34.67,"end":36.65,"text":"How do our guys feel now that they won it?"},{"start":36.67,"end":37.64,"text":"Do they feel good?"},{"start":37.66,"end":39.4,"text":"A lot of the boys feel real good about it, Jan."},{"start":39.44,"end":42.44,"text":"I think some of the boys who even voted against us are a little happy about it now, you know."},{"start":42.46,"end":42.7,"text":"Great."},{"start":43.1,"end":45.03,"text":"We changed four of them in Illinois."},{"start":45.05,"end":48.53,"text":"We got four boys from Illinois, Michael and Collier and Crane."},{"start":48.51,"end":50.4,"text":"Isn't that wonderful?"},{"start":50.46,"end":53.11,"text":"Got them to withdraw their no votes and vote present."},{"start":53.13,"end":55.28,"text":"We got pairs for them."},{"start":55.3,"end":55.56,"text":"Good."},{"start":55.58,"end":56.46,"text":"That made the difference."},{"start":56.52,"end":57.08,"text":"That's great."},{"start":57.28,"end":57.99,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":58.11,"end":58.65,"text":"It was great."},{"start":59.17,"end":60.46,"text":"Well, I'm glad it worked out well."},{"start":60.48,"end":61.34,"text":"I appreciate it, Les."},{"start":61.6,"end":61.68,"text":"Bye."},{"start":61.7,"end":62.26,"text":"You do."},{"start":62.34,"end":63.29,"text":"Gosh, we're on the team."},{"start":63.49,"end":63.73,"text":"Right."},{"start":63.99,"end":64.17,"text":"Bye."},{"start":64.41,"end":65.47,"text":"Thanks, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon calls House Minority Whip Leslie C. Arends to congratulate him on securing a narrow legislative victory regarding the supersonic transport (SST) funding. Arends explains how strategic procedural maneuvers, including securing pairs from the Illinois delegation—specifically Representatives Philip M. Crane, Robert H. Michel, and Harold R. Collier—were instrumental in the vote. 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