{"conversationCode":"003-103","tapeNumber":3,"conversationNumber":103,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-003-103","startDateTime":"1971-05-21T00:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-21T00:12:00.000Z","startDate":"20-May-1971","startTime":"8:11 PM","endDate":"20-May-1971","endTime":"8:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On May 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 8:11 pm to 8:12 pm. 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Klein\n          -Forthcoming meeting with Kissinger\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n                 -Date\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Privacy (D) reviewed under PRMPA regulations 10/24/2017. Segment\ncleared for release.]\n[Privacy]\n[003-1003-w001]\n[Duration: 3s]\n\n     Joseph W. Alsop’s family\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n            -Forthcoming article\n\n     Dave Kraslow (sp?)\n          -Call to Kissinger\n                -Storyline\n\n     Alsop\n          -Klein's report on response\n          -Forthcoming meeting with Kissinger\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Privacy (D) reviewed under PRMPA regulations 10/24/2017. 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(President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"003-102","nextCode":"003-104","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":0.95,"text":"Hello."},{"start":0.97,"end":2.83,"text":"It's the president."},{"start":2.85,"end":13.65,"text":"Henry, one thing that I just talked to her crying that I think you ought to do in the morning is to see Joe Alsop."},{"start":13.67,"end":16.33,"text":"You haven't seen him alone yet, have you?"},{"start":16.35,"end":21.16,"text":"No, I've called him, though."},{"start":21.18,"end":21.28,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":21.3,"end":21.98,"text":"And I'm speaking Sunday afternoon."},{"start":22,"end":22.9,"text":"And he's going to write about it this Sunday."},{"start":23.23,"end":42.1,"text":"Fine, okay, fine, you've got that all under control then."},{"start":42.12,"end":45.24,"text":"I've just been talking to Dave Graslow, and he wants to write an article about, not just this, but that you have started a few years ago, so far, something."},{"start":45.27,"end":45.62,"text":"Right, good, good."},{"start":45.65,"end":49.29,"text":"Well, the main thing about Joe is to be sure that he doesn't get off, he's, according to her, that he's sort of grumbling that, well, we really ought to do this, we ought to move on."},{"start":49.31,"end":49.73,"text":"Bill Maher, you know."},{"start":49.75,"end":50.37,"text":"That's exactly what he told me."},{"start":50.86,"end":70.58,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":70.6,"end":73.24,"text":"But I told him not to ride anything until I saw him."},{"start":73.26,"end":73.48,"text":"Good, good."},{"start":73.5,"end":73.84,"text":"So, I'll explain."},{"start":73.86,"end":74.19,"text":"Yeah, yeah, bye."},{"start":74.2,"end":76.79,"text":"Well, you, you, you see me, uh, Sunday afternoon is probably a good time."},{"start":76.81,"end":76.91,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":76.93,"end":77.03,"text":"Good."},{"start":77.05,"end":77.27,"text":"Bye, Henry."},{"start":77.29,"end":77.39,"text":"Okay."},{"start":77.94,"end":101.05,"text":"Now, Mr. President, one point with Jerry Smith, he mentioned to me that you made some reference to him about the accidental oil spill."},{"start":101.07,"end":102,"text":"My recommendation is not to say that tomorrow."},{"start":102.02,"end":102.33,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":102.36,"end":103.22,"text":"You wait until after he's back on the 28th."},{"start":103.24,"end":103.48,"text":"Yeah, right."},{"start":103.5,"end":105.22,"text":"Because otherwise he'll slap it at Vienna and then they'll put it into their presence."},{"start":105.24,"end":105.5,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":105.52,"end":106.12,"text":"Hold it until after he's back."},{"start":106.14,"end":107.02,"text":"You can get another ride out of it if you..."},{"start":107.04,"end":107.26,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":107.28,"end":107.56,"text":"We'll do that."},{"start":108.18,"end":111.92,"text":"Okay, well, I'll talk to you this morning before we meet anyway."},{"start":111.94,"end":112.12,"text":"Right."},{"start":112.14,"end":114.14,"text":"Fine, fine, fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs Henry Kissinger to meet with columnist Joseph Alsop to manage his public reporting and address his frustrations regarding administration policy. 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