{"conversationCode":"003-153","tapeNumber":3,"conversationNumber":153,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-003-153","startDateTime":"1971-05-28T00:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-28T00:11:00.000Z","startDate":"27-May-1971","startTime":"8:09 PM","endDate":"27-May-1971","endTime":"8:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On May 27, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 8:09 pm to 8:11 pm. 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(“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n     President's schedule\n          -Dinner for Anastasio Somoza Debayle\n                 -Attendees\n          -Tricia Nixon's wedding\n          -Eightieth Congress reception\n          -Breakfasts\n                 -Location","filename":["003-153.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:44:56","tapeEnd":"03:46:22","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"003-152","nextCode":"003-154","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":3.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.86,"end":12.79,"text":"Well, Pat, I want to tell you it's all worked out fine because we're only planning on 45 to 50 for Stag."},{"start":12.81,"end":20.32,"text":"We're just going to invite the wives and make it a nice dinner of 90 people, perhaps."},{"start":20.44,"end":20.94,"text":"That'll be it."},{"start":21,"end":21.34,"text":"Good."},{"start":21.36,"end":22.26,"text":"I think that's great."},{"start":22.42,"end":27.91,"text":"And also, as far as the period between that and the wedding, the only other thing that we have planned"},{"start":28.41,"end":36.25,"text":"is the following night I have to give a reception, you know, for the 80th Congress people."},{"start":36.27,"end":37.01,"text":"Is it going to be at the White House?"},{"start":37.03,"end":37.9,"text":"It'll be here, yeah, just a reception."},{"start":37.92,"end":38.02,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":38.08,"end":38.98,"text":"With the wives?"},{"start":39,"end":43.51,"text":"Wives, sure."},{"start":43.53,"end":44.45,"text":"It's just a reception, though, and a cocktail."},{"start":44.47,"end":44.69,"text":"That's all."},{"start":44.71,"end":45.29,"text":"And then we..."},{"start":45.66,"end":46.28,"text":"Nothing else."},{"start":46.76,"end":47.67,"text":"Turn it off."},{"start":47.73,"end":48.25,"text":"Nothing else."},{"start":48.27,"end":49.95,"text":"Nothing else except I'll have a breakfast now."},{"start":49.97,"end":54.72,"text":"Yeah, but Dick, we even have to talk about that because there are ways to do it easily."},{"start":54.74,"end":58.83,"text":"There's no breakfast scheduled except in the small room downstairs."},{"start":58.85,"end":59.22,"text":"That's all."},{"start":59.48,"end":62.53,"text":"Yeah, but they use that as a serving room when they have to clear it up."},{"start":62.55,"end":62.83,"text":"No, no, no."},{"start":62.85,"end":64.41,"text":"It's better to have it in another room."},{"start":64.61,"end":67.17,"text":"Well, we'll do that too, but I don't think we have any plans."},{"start":67.19,"end":68.47,"text":"I'm going to look it over."},{"start":68.5,"end":68.78,"text":"Okay."},{"start":68.8,"end":72.88,"text":"Because, you know, they have to clear all the serving apparatus out of there."},{"start":72.9,"end":73.34,"text":"I know."},{"start":73.58,"end":76.09,"text":"So it's better to have it just like in the bathroom."},{"start":76.11,"end":76.77,"text":"Fine, we'll do that."},{"start":76.79,"end":77.69,"text":"You know, something like that."},{"start":77.71,"end":78.77,"text":"The bathroom is fine."},{"start":78.79,"end":82.14,"text":"Because it's much more accessible."},{"start":82.22,"end":83.54,"text":"Yeah, good."},{"start":83.56,"end":84.58,"text":"Okay, bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon coordinate logistics for upcoming social obligations at the White House, specifically focusing on the guest list for an upcoming dinner and a reception for the 80th Congress. 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