{"conversationCode":"004-028","tapeNumber":4,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-004-028","startDateTime":"1971-06-04T15:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-04T15:43:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1971","startTime":"11:42 AM","endDate":"4-Jun-1971","endTime":"11:43 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Pastore, John O.;","description":"On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John O. Pastore talked on the telephone from 11:42 am to 11:43 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 004-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 4-28\n\nDate: June 4, 1971\nTime: 11:42 am - 11:43 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Senator John O. Pastore.\n\n[See Conversation No. 512-12A]\n\n     President's energy message sent to Congress\n     President's instructions to Ronald L. Ziegler\n           -Bipartisanship nature of energy effect\n           -Chet Holifield, Craig Hosmer\n\n     Pastore's forthcoming Senate remarks","filename":["004-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:33:53","tapeEnd":"01:34:48","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Pastore, John O."],"prevCode":"004-027","nextCode":"004-029","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.51,"text":"I don't know if they want."},{"start":1.85,"end":3.98,"text":"Mr. President, Senator Pastore returned your call."},{"start":4,"end":4.86,"text":"Do you want to take it now?"},{"start":6.38,"end":8.58,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":8.64,"end":8.74,"text":"Fine."},{"start":8.78,"end":9.02,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":9.28,"end":9.77,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":10.21,"end":25.13,"text":"I just wanted you to know, John, that I just sent to the Congress today the energy message, and I told my press secretary, Ron Ziegler, to point out that this is a bipartisan effort, that you and Chet Holyfield joined with Hosmer and others, and that without your help, we wouldn't have come this far."},{"start":25.11,"end":31.44,"text":"Well, you're so kind, and I'm going to go on the floor at 12 o'clock after your news release deadline and make a statement to that."},{"start":31.48,"end":32.34,"text":"Well, I appreciate it."},{"start":32.36,"end":33.65,"text":"I think it's a wonderful room."},{"start":33.67,"end":48.7,"text":"When you go on, if you like, you mentioned the fact that you and I have talked and that I emphasize that I consider this a bipartisan effort and that this is one that goes far beyond any other considerations and that you fellows played a major part in getting it through."},{"start":49.2,"end":50.83,"text":"I shall do exactly that."},{"start":51.19,"end":52.03,"text":"It's a privilege to do it."},{"start":52.09,"end":52.29,"text":"Good."},{"start":52.31,"end":53.75,"text":"Thank you very, very much for calling."},{"start":53.77,"end":53.87,"text":"Good."},{"start":53.89,"end":55,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Senator John O. Pastore to inform him that his energy message had been submitted to Congress and to ensure the administration's public messaging highlighted the bipartisan nature of the effort. Nixon specifically credited Pastore, Chet Holifield, and Craig Hosmer for their crucial contributions to the policy's development. In response, Pastore pledged to deliver supportive remarks on the Senate floor to underscore this cooperative legislative approach.","topics":["Energy policy","Bipartisanship","Congress","John O. Pastore","Legislative strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:42:43.825Z"},"topicSlugs":["energy-policy","bipartisanship","congress","john-o-pastore","legislative-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":55,"audioFiles":[{"file":"004-028.mp3","bytes":636817,"durationSec":54.95,"bitrate":92713,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.077Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/004-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/004-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/4/conversation-004-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}