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Conversation 004-034

TapeTape 4StartFriday, June 4, 1971 at 3:11 PMEndFriday, June 4, 1971 at 3:12 PMTape start time02:02:57Tape end time02:03:47ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ziegler, Ronald L.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AI Summary

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler discuss the optics and scheduling of an upcoming meeting with New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller. They deliberate on whether to permit photographic coverage of the meeting to project an image of positive federal-state relations, ultimately aiming to influence New York political perceptions. The President confirms the meeting will take place in the Oval Office rather than the EEOB to focus the conversation on topics such as revenue-sharing.

Nelson RockefellerWhite House photographyFederal-state relationsRevenue sharingPublic relations
AudioNARA Description

On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 3:11 pm to 3:12 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 004-034 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 4-34

Date: June 4, 1971
Time: 3:11 pm - 3:12 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Ronald L.. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 512-24]

     President's schedule
           -Meeting with Nelson A. Rockefeller
           -Photographic coverage
           -John V. Lindsay
           -Location
           -Subject of meeting
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Yeah.
Yes, sir.
I'm going to have a little 15-minute chat with Rockefeller before this meeting.
You think you want to have people take a picture of it?
I don't think we need it today, Mr. President.
I'm thinking of it for the purpose of New York.
I mean, it's having snublincy and so forth.
I mean, I'm just thinking of the... See what I mean?
Okay, fine.
Yes, sir.
The idea of just being in good relations with the governor isn't bad.
Right.
I'll talk to him and see if he...
It feels it's a good idea.
Will you do it in the EEOB?
No, no, no, no.
I'm in the Oval Office.
I see.
Yes, sir.
We just haven't popped in, and the governor and I have been chatting about federal, you know, federal... Fine, before the foreign intelligence.
Yeah, federal-state relations.
I think it's a good idea.
Revenue-sharing, federal-state relations.
Right.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
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